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America's Biggest Milk Producers Are Going Bankrupt

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Re: America's Biggest Milk Producers Are Going Bankrupt

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The invisible hand at play, specially if it is true that plant based milk are taking away market share from the milk industry. Hope the government doesn't bail out or protect the industry against what the free market demands.

What I've heard is people drink less milk but eat more cheese. I think the plant milk substitutes for cheese are not quite there.

The best mac and cheese I have ever had was vegan although that was from a vegan restaurant so I don't even know how they made it.

Re: America's Biggest Milk Producers Are Going Bankrupt

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A counterpoint: these companies were recently bought by private equity firm KKR Co, the same company that loaded up Toys 'R Us with debt and then liquidated it. https://mobile.twitter.com/rhinosoros/status/121424602712711... This bankruptcy filling might just be negotiation in the courts to reduce pension obligations.

Now we get the truth.

Re: America's Biggest Milk Producers Are Going Bankrupt

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What I've heard is people drink less milk but eat more cheese. I think the plant milk substitutes for cheese are not quite there.

The best mac and cheese I have ever had was vegan although that was from a vegan restaurant so I don't even know how they made it.

Cashew sauce serves as a cheese substitute.

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The invisible hand at play, specially if it is true that plant based milk are taking away market share from the milk industry. Hope the government doesn't bail out or protect the industry against what the free market demands.

There's lots of evidence milk isn't as good for you as the dairy industry advertises.

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Whole milk is still recommended by pediatricians for toddlers, I imagine plant based milk is not nutritionally equivalent.

We use pea milk with our kids because they're lactose intolerant. Pediatrician recommended as long as they're getting more protein and fat elsewhere in their diet (which they do). It doesn't hurt that peas don't care how they're raised and treated to produce milk. Dairy milk is not nutritionally necessary in any age cohort. If you enjoy it, that's fine of course, but it isn't required if you don't.

What cow told you that? Peas care.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I've heard is people drink less milk but eat more cheese. I think the plant milk substitutes for cheese are not quite there.

The best mac and cheese I have ever had was vegan although that was from a vegan restaurant so I don't even know how they made it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7q2Ry-pC6Rw

Here are my kids making vegan mac and cheese.

Re: America's Biggest Milk Producers Are Going Bankrupt

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The invisible hand at play, specially if it is true that plant based milk are taking away market share from the milk industry. Hope the government doesn't bail out or protect the industry against what the free market demands.

There's lots of evidence milk isn't as good for you as the dairy industry advertises.

Where did you get that idea? Milk is one of the 2-3 most nutritious foods on Earth. In fact, milk has been designed by evolution over millions of years to be precisely what a mammal needs to thrive.

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There's lots of evidence milk isn't as good for you as the dairy industry advertises.

Where did you get that idea? Milk is one of the 2-3 most nutritious foods on Earth. In fact, milk has been designed by evolution over millions of years to be precisely what a mammal needs to thrive.

Some humans have the necessary genes to digest milk, some do not. Can't lump all mammals together.

> Milk contains a type of sugar called lactose, which is distinct from the sugars found in fruit and other sweet foods. When we are babies, our bodies make a special enzyme called lactase that allows us to digest the lactose in our mother’s milk. But after we are weaned in early childhood, for many people this stops. Without lactase, we cannot properly digest the lactose in milk. As a result, if an adult drinks a lot of milk they may experience flatulence, painful cramps and even diarrhoea. (It’s worth noting that in other mammals, there aren’t any lactase-persistent adults – adult cows don’t have active lactase, and neither do cats or dogs, for example).

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190218-when-did-humans-...

Re: America's Biggest Milk Producers Are Going Bankrupt

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Whole milk is still recommended by pediatricians for toddlers, I imagine plant based milk is not nutritionally equivalent.

We use pea milk with our kids because they're lactose intolerant. Pediatrician recommended as long as they're getting more protein and fat elsewhere in their diet (which they do). It doesn't hurt that peas don't care how they're raised and treated to produce milk. Dairy milk is not nutritionally necessary in any age cohort. If you enjoy it, that's fine of course, but it isn't required if you don't.

I just think you're damaging your kids by not giving them milk, which is the most nutritious thing you can feed a kid. Also, your kids may be lactose intolerant due to other stuff in their diet, like gluten or other toxins in plant-based foods that lead to a leaky gut.

Re: America's Biggest Milk Producers Are Going Bankrupt

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The invisible hand at play, specially if it is true that plant based milk are taking away market share from the milk industry. Hope the government doesn't bail out or protect the industry against what the free market demands.

There's lots of evidence milk isn't as good for you as the dairy industry advertises.

And also lots of evidence for the contrary.
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