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the thing is those 4000 cpus are really 3000 ones. intels laptops are always 1 gen ahead. amds laptop is always one gen behind. its kinda annoying. granted zen 2 (or 3000) was a good architecture so it should compete nicely but I would expect intel to actually be more efficient still because its newer.
the thing is those 4000 cpus are really 3000 ones. intels laptops are always 1 gen ahead. amds laptop is always one gen behind. its kinda annoying. granted zen 2 (or 3000) was a good architecture so it should compete nicely but I would expect intel to actually be more efficient still because its newer.
The core architecture is totally irrelevant. They took the previous generation core, improved the process, made various tweaks, ran it at a different clock speed and within a different thermal and TDP envelope, and everything else that entails. Laptops have different requirements that need to be considered. Taking a mature part they understand well gives them room and understanding to make necessary tweaks. The reali…
The mistake was made during the Ryzen 1000. they called the APUs (CPU with graphics) Ryzen but the CPU cores were not even Zen.
I know that it takes more then putting another name on to create these CPUs. But since they have the same Architecture they should be in the same generation.
Intel's 10th Gen naming annoys me as well. 10nm and 14nm CPUs all under the same naming scheme. The only reason to do this is to confuse uninformed customers.
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The core architecture is totally irrelevant. They took the previous generation core, improved the process, made various tweaks, ran it at a different clock speed and within a different thermal and TDP envelope, and everything else that entails. Laptops have different requirements that need to be considered. Taking a mature part they understand well gives them room and understanding to make necessary tweaks. The reali…
Sure, they still should have called it the Ryzen 3000. The mistake was made during the Ryzen 1000. they called the APUs (CPU with graphics) Ryzen but the CPU cores were not even Zen. I know that it takes more then putting another name on to create these CPUs. But since they have the same Architecture they should be in the same generation. Intel's 10th Gen naming annoys me as well. 10nm and 14nm CPUs all under the sam…
Why? It's just a name. It's not the same as a 3700X, it's been modified, tweaked and revised to meet a different application. It's a new version.
With laptops, OEM deals matter a lot more than with desktop CPU's. Here's to hoping that OEMs don't gimp their Ryzen models with worse screens, smaller batteries and slower, single-channel Ram as they are wont to do. I'm excite for my next laptop to have a Ryzen, depending on benchmarks of course.
Desktop ~ 20%
Notebook ~ 15%
Server ~ 4%
AMD/TSMC just can't make enough CPU's to take over Intel in CPU market share even if they win every deal.
Already tweeted the following comment... ---- @TheVerge @cgartenberg I think you are muddling some things... There are Ryzen processors in the 2000, 3000, and 4000 series that use the tech from the prior generation. The 3200g for example, is a Zen+ (12nm) processor in the 3000 series... ---- There are also Zen2 processors in the 3000 series. The processors you are referring to are Zen2 (7nm) processors that are in th…
The reason for this is that it takes more engendering effort to always add the igpu to the platform.
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Sure, they still should have called it the Ryzen 3000. The mistake was made during the Ryzen 1000. they called the APUs (CPU with graphics) Ryzen but the CPU cores were not even Zen. I know that it takes more then putting another name on to create these CPUs. But since they have the same Architecture they should be in the same generation. Intel's 10th Gen naming annoys me as well. 10nm and 14nm CPUs all under the sam…
> Sure, they still should have called it the Ryzen 3000. Why? It's just a name. It's not the same as a 3700X, it's been modified, tweaked and revised to meet a different application. It's a new version.
What's new with this CPU is the GPU Die that is soldered right next to the CPU and the interconnect chip that combines CPU and GPU.
It should have been:
Ryzen 1000 - Zen1
Ryzen 2000 - Zen+
Ryzen 3000 - Zen2
But it is:
Ryzen 1000 - CPU: Zen1, APU: -
Ryzen 2000 - CPU: Zen+, APU: Zen1
Ryzen 3000 - CPU: Zen2, APU: Zen+
Ryzen 4000 - CPU: ?, APU: Zen2
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> Sure, they still should have called it the Ryzen 3000. Why? It's just a name. It's not the same as a 3700X, it's been modified, tweaked and revised to meet a different application. It's a new version.
The core part of it is unchanged. All CPUs with the Zen2 Architecture are made out of the exact same 8 Core die. Ryzen, Threadripper and Epyc. And that is one of the big advantages that AMD currently has compared to Intel. Take a look at the pictures. The CPU actually consists of 3 Parts: CPU, GPU, Interconnect. What's new with this CPU is the GPU Die that is soldered right next to the CPU and the interconnect chip t…
Wow, they released a processor with 64 cores?! that's crazy. AMD is crushing it!
Already tweeted the following comment... ---- @TheVerge @cgartenberg I think you are muddling some things... There are Ryzen processors in the 2000, 3000, and 4000 series that use the tech from the prior generation. The 3200g for example, is a Zen+ (12nm) processor in the 3000 series... ---- There are also Zen2 processors in the 3000 series. The processors you are referring to are Zen2 (7nm) processors that are in th…
Mobile processors are always one generation behind. Mobile Ryzen 2000 was Zen, mobile ryzen 3000 was Zen+ and mobile ryzen 4000 will be Zen 2 (while Desktop ryzen 4000 will be Zen 3). The reason for this is that it takes more engendering effort to always add the igpu to the platform.
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The core part of it is unchanged. All CPUs with the Zen2 Architecture are made out of the exact same 8 Core die. Ryzen, Threadripper and Epyc. And that is one of the big advantages that AMD currently has compared to Intel. Take a look at the pictures. The CPU actually consists of 3 Parts: CPU, GPU, Interconnect. What's new with this CPU is the GPU Die that is soldered right next to the CPU and the interconnect chip t…
These APUs are all single-die parts combining both the CPU and GPU cores, along with the IO, onto the one die. They share that die across the entire 4000-zeries APU lineup though.
The CPU Cores are stil Zen2