Unfortunately, a job search aggregator assumes that companies religiously post new jobs. The reality is when a company wants to hire it 'may' post a job to cover it butt in case of an EEO complaint. Mostly they have internal candidates, internally referred candidates, retained recruiters, applicants from career website who all rank above an external job site. My guess is a very low percentage of jobs actually get filled by job aggegator sites. imho The number of applicants from these sites is just too much, far less qualified and trusted compared to other sources.
JobFunnel, a job website search aggregator
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#12Unfortunately, a job search aggregator assumes that companies religiously post new jobs. The reality is when a company wants to hire it 'may' post a job to cover it butt in case of an EEO complaint. Mostly they have internal candidates, internally referred candidates, retained recruiters, applicants from career website who all rank above an external job site. My guess is a very low percentage of jobs actually get fil…
Oh man, I love how this works. Everyone's time gets wasted, and then the applicant gets the shaft and a bullshit excuse.
Either companies shouldn't be required to post publicly with the intent of hiring internally or an employee getting a referral kickback, or something needs to be figured out where the applicants aren't taken advantage of.
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#13Anyway I can automate applying for a job now. That would be the ultimate tool to complement this.
How would you automate, would you just send your resume? I've been thinking about building a developers only job site and was thinking that developers would really love the idea of auto applying but I don't know how to avoid low quality matches.
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#14Anyway I can automate applying for a job now. That would be the ultimate tool to complement this.
This wouldnt be that hard to do, but is it illegal to automate those submissions?
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#16This is essentially what large job sites like Indeed do themselves, but they have entire teams maintaining the scraping pipeline. I've worked for one of their competitors.
One pet peeve I have with sites like indeed is all of the subterfuge that goes on. For instance, the half-assed sort by date feature. Indeed adds in month old sponsored postings with new postings, and often repeats those old postings on consecutive pages. Many sites also shamelessly reset their posting dates so that nothing is ever more than a week old.
Stripping away the middleman's ability to manipulate the presentation of search results is the most attractive feature here, in my opinion.
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#18At https://remoteleaf.com, we have been doing this manually to curate remote jobs.
I spend more than 6 hours daily searching for, screening, verifying and filtering hundreds of remote jobs. So it can save you time, energy, and frustration – and hopefully, help you find a job faster
I'll check out this tool at least for the scrapping part.
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#19I was always under the impression job sites don’t like to be scraped. What are the risks in using a tool like this? I would suspect possibly getting your ip banned.
As always, consult a lawyer.
But, my understanding is that you are allowed to scrape sites as long as you don't impact their ability to deliver the site to other users. In other words, don't DDoS them. Sites tried to ban scraping but last I remember seeing it was not enforceable unless it was done at high rates or maliciously.
As for content, certain things like recipes aren't protected content because they are "listings of ingredients". I can imagine a job opening / title might follow that same logic, maybe the job requirements and benefits as well.
What is protected is the way it's presented and organized. So if you have the same jobs with the same filters and same layout you might be exposing yourself to trouble. You have to make changes in the way it's presented, which for copyright law is changing 50% or more.
So if you're scraping a job site and only showing remote jobs or jobs in a certain skill set, or you're showing the job along with some stats about the company you're probably in a safe spot. But again, if you want to make a business out of it it's probably good to talk to a lawyer first.
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#20Anyway I can automate applying for a job now. That would be the ultimate tool to complement this.
This wouldnt be that hard to do, but is it illegal to automate those submissions?
I don't see why it would be, as long as you're just sending one real job application. If you tried to DOS a company by sending in a ton of garbage applications that'd probably be illegal.
That said I wouldn't be surprised if you get declined if the company realizes you did so.