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Average Denuvo cracking time is now 75 days

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Re: Average Denuvo cracking time is now 75 days

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It is still profitable to add Denuvo for game publishers, because most sales happen in the first week.

from wikipedia's entry about denuvo :

However, technology website Ars Technica noted that most sales for major games happen within 30 days of release, and so publishers may consider Denuvo a success if it meant a game took significantly longer to be cracked

Re: Average Denuvo cracking time is now 75 days

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It is still profitable to add Denuvo for game publishers, because most sales happen in the first week.

You are assuming that everyone purchasing a game, would not purchase it if they could download a pirated version. Call me naive, but I like to think that a lot of people that have the money to purchase a game in the first week, would still purchase it even if a cracked version is available. Just look at the billions of revenue earned by Spotify and iTunes before it, even if most music is available on release date (or…

Don’t forget about hyped up kids, they spend months posting to forums and Reddit about how (new game) will be the best thing ever. Then once they get a chance to play it are disappointed since it is impossible to live up to the expectations they have built up in their mind, then immediately move on to the next big thing.

Before it’s cracked they will probably buy it because of how excited they are and FOMO

Re: Average Denuvo cracking time is now 75 days

#15

The thing is, this DRM stuff causes a lot of problems, like performance loss and even crashes. Therefore even honest buyers use the cracks, to get rid of it. Some people even wait until the game appears DRM-free on GOG, because of this.

I suspect that at least 99.9% of PC game buyers don't even know whether a game has something like Denuvo or not.

Re: Average Denuvo cracking time is now 75 days

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post #15

The thing is, this DRM stuff causes a lot of problems, like performance loss and even crashes. Therefore even honest buyers use the cracks, to get rid of it. Some people even wait until the game appears DRM-free on GOG, because of this.

I suspect that at least 99.9% of PC game buyers don't even know whether a game has something like Denuvo or not.

I wonder if they do but they cannot name it.

Re: Average Denuvo cracking time is now 75 days

#17
post #2

It is still profitable to add Denuvo for game publishers, because most sales happen in the first week.

So why not remove the DRM after the first week then?

Annoying bugs being patched is another reason to buy. Often cannot get the latest version without buying retail.

Re: Average Denuvo cracking time is now 75 days

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post #15

The thing is, this DRM stuff causes a lot of problems, like performance loss and even crashes. Therefore even honest buyers use the cracks, to get rid of it. Some people even wait until the game appears DRM-free on GOG, because of this.

I suspect that at least 99.9% of PC game buyers don't even know whether a game has something like Denuvo or not.

I suspect that number is far lower... like 95%

PC Gaming may be mainstream now but in its nerdier days awareness of cracking was quite high... and I imagine it still is among demographics that cannot afford to plunk down $60 for the latest whatever-they-want

Re: Average Denuvo cracking time is now 75 days

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post #5

Does someone know if insiders are releasing the cracks or are these cracking groups independent?

If anything, insiders usually leak pre-release builds so crackers can start early.

Denuvo state themselves that it only protects for certain period not infinitely so probably it is just hackers not releasing cracks immediately due to multiple possible reasons:

1) legal action if published got his 2-3 months when sales are at peak they are less likely to go after the crackers

2) games are often released very buggy thanks to online patching available, so they just wait for games to stabilize as not to update cracks weekly

3) less demand for cracks due to steam and sales, I feel like people wait for sales or prices to drop off in general

Re: Average Denuvo cracking time is now 75 days

#20

The thing is, this DRM stuff causes a lot of problems, like performance loss and even crashes. Therefore even honest buyers use the cracks, to get rid of it. Some people even wait until the game appears DRM-free on GOG, because of this.

It doesn't matter TBH. As long as the DRAM slows down everyone, it would just be part of the game experience then.
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