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ProtonMail takes aim at Google with an encrypted calendar

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Re: ProtonMail takes aim at Google with an encrypted calendar

#11

I recently left ProtonMail and went back to Fastmail. My reason was that they will never be able to fully support IMAP and now CalDAV because of the encryption they use. I grew to accept that email is not for secure messaging and my paranoia of "I'm being watched" just went away. If you need secure messaging, use something other than email.

Did you try this?

https://protonmail.com/bridge/

Or did it not work for you?

Re: ProtonMail takes aim at Google with an encrypted calendar

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post #3

Did anyone else notice ProtonMail being used in the movie "Knives Out" to send the ransom note? Cracked me up..

Yes I did! I thought I was alone. I love when movies do their best to have some sense on the tech side, it could have been an annoying "sending ransom note.." loader instead.

Re: ProtonMail takes aim at Google with an encrypted calendar

#15

I recently left ProtonMail and went back to Fastmail. My reason was that they will never be able to fully support IMAP and now CalDAV because of the encryption they use. I grew to accept that email is not for secure messaging and my paranoia of "I'm being watched" just went away. If you need secure messaging, use something other than email.

> I grew to accept that email is not for secure messaging and my paranoia of "I'm being watched" just went away.

Agreed. Even if you use protonmail, google still has most of your email because they have the most of everyone else's.

Re: ProtonMail takes aim at Google with an encrypted calendar

#16

I recently left ProtonMail and went back to Fastmail. My reason was that they will never be able to fully support IMAP and now CalDAV because of the encryption they use. I grew to accept that email is not for secure messaging and my paranoia of "I'm being watched" just went away. If you need secure messaging, use something other than email.

Did you try this? https://protonmail.com/bridge/ Or did it not work for you?

Well, snap! Does Tutanota have something akin to this? I also have stopped using Tuta/Proton due to the IMAP incompatibility.

Re: ProtonMail takes aim at Google with an encrypted calendar

#17

I recently left ProtonMail and went back to Fastmail. My reason was that they will never be able to fully support IMAP and now CalDAV because of the encryption they use. I grew to accept that email is not for secure messaging and my paranoia of "I'm being watched" just went away. If you need secure messaging, use something other than email.

For me it was their app just being so far behind Fastmail.

If they had a better app I'd gladly pay. I just can't stomach gmail anymore and Fastmail was next best.

Re: ProtonMail takes aim at Google with an encrypted calendar

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post #3

Did anyone else notice ProtonMail being used in the movie "Knives Out" to send the ransom note? Cracked me up..

Yes I did! I thought I was alone. I love when movies do their best to have some sense on the tech side, it could have been an annoying "sending ransom note.." loader instead.

I also saw it, and got a chuckle. I noticed how they were using the mobile web-app version instead of dedicated app.

I think its a testament to ProtonMail's popularity, that they get some screentime in a film with such a high-profile cast. Perhaps a techie in the film crew suggested they use it.

Re: ProtonMail takes aim at Google with an encrypted calendar

#19

I'm a bit confused it took Protonmail more than a year yo develop ProtonCalendar. Is it really that difficult to develop?

A calendar?

Yes. I'm surprised they could develop it as quickly as a year in fact.

Calendars are difficult, there is a lot of hidden complexity in the way that users use calendars. They are iceberg products, they look simple from the outset but if you try making one you'll run into the myriad of edge cases.

Re: ProtonMail takes aim at Google with an encrypted calendar

#20
I lost a lot of faith in Proton when I learned how much funding they took from the EU. It just runs entirely counter to evidence we’ve seen of Snowden, 5eyes/14eyes, and other programs that the EU truly wants end to end encrypted comms for people.

Am I wrong to be skeptical?

Edit: oh apparently I’m wrong to even suggest something we have other examples of

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