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To everything there is a season – Why we're shutting down

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#11

For someone that never used it, what was the appeal of this service? I took a look at the site and didn't really get it. What does this have over Spotify?

It's used to be the best place to discover new music based on human's taste, not machine's taste.

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#12

For someone that never used it, what was the appeal of this service? I took a look at the site and didn't really get it. What does this have over Spotify?

On youtube and spotify I'd usually just get a list of music from the same artists, or from artists who operated in the same genre that I liked, but had a very different sound to what I liked. Somehow, discovering new music on youtube/spotify is a bit of a chore, endlessly pressing next on songs that I'm not feeling, and only sometimes striking gold.

Somehow, 8tracks was different, I could pick a genre and I'd just listen to a whole playlist of mostly new, great songs. Likely because it was curated by DJs and musicians themselves, not record labels or algorithms. Second, because there's a lot of upcoming talent that's not on Spotify yet for lack of an album or label, but had a single mixtape or single record out on e.g. Soundcloud which was great. I don't know the exact mechanics, just that it was the best place to discover new music for me, and I haven't seen a good replacement yet.

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post #5

“the company and its streaming service will wind down with the end of the decade, on December 31st, 2019” Years started being numbered at 1 so the decade ends on December 31 2020.

While millennia and centuries are numbered ordinally (e.g. the 18th century or 2nd millennium), in modern speech decades are not numbered ordinally, they're declared based upon the tens digit (e.g. 60s, 80s, or 90s), so your point is false.

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post #7
post #5

“the company and its streaming service will wind down with the end of the decade, on December 31st, 2019” Years started being numbered at 1 so the decade ends on December 31 2020.

Well that's a technicality. There's no reason to base practical realities of Jan 1 2020 being the start of the "2020s" with the fact that Year 0 was missing. I recall a CNN article recently about this: https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/21/us/when-does-the-decade-end-b... > Those technicalities, however, don't change the fact that as a society, we seem to have collectively determined that decades begin in years ending in ze…

It's not even a technicality, really. A decade is any span of ten years, and in modern English we refer to decades by their tens digit. If someone wanted to talk about the 202nd decade or something, then sure, that'd end next year, but instead we merely talk about the 60s, 90s, or whatever. Calendar shifts in the interim even make the "technical" approach a bit of a farce, though.

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I’m interested to know to how much their data breach in 2017 [0] impacted attrition. This breach included email addresses and encrypted passwords.

I really enjoyed the service but like many, Spotify’s competing (albeit subpar) features led me astray as I consolidated my listening to a single platform. And being outside of the US and Canada, I couldn’t use it after the 2016 cut off.

Subsequently, 8tracks fell off the radar for me. Until news of the data breach, which was much more annoying to hear about - as it was for a service I couldn’t even use anymore. However, their transparency has always been great and the post-mortem and customer comms were quick.

RIP 8tracks, I still miss the service and there is still a large gap in curating playlists the way they did.

[0] https://blog.8tracks.com/2017/06/27/password-security-alert/

Re: To everything there is a season – Why we're shutting down

#17
post #5

“the company and its streaming service will wind down with the end of the decade, on December 31st, 2019” Years started being numbered at 1 so the decade ends on December 31 2020.

I just think the 5 day notice with 10 year running is a bit short notice.

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#18
post #3

> for regulatory reasons, credit cards could not be used to invest; and while SeedInvest, the platform we used to execute the round, was able to accept debit cards initially, our debit card processor decided, several weeks in, that it no longer wished to support crowdfunding initiatives. Cautionary tale for equity-based crowdfunding. I'd love to read about some success stories.

> "equity-based crowdfunding"

Isn't that called an IPO?

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#19
post #4

> in early 2016, we were required to cut off streaming to listeners outside the US and Canada I didn't fully understand who it was that required 8tracks to stop streaming abroad, but I wholeheartedly hate them so much. It was my preferred music service, I loved discovering all sorts of playlists and new music, while I've always disliked the Spotify client. To see it dissappear, probably due to greed from royalty owne…

Probably GEMA or some overbearing rights organizations (though it would be probably "we have to stop in X countries, not only keep in US/Canada)

Re: To everything there is a season – Why we're shutting down

#20

For someone that never used it, what was the appeal of this service? I took a look at the site and didn't really get it. What does this have over Spotify?

The curation (all by humans - mostly ordinary users I believe) was significantly better than any other service I've used.
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