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I Was Wrong About Speed Reading (2015)

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Re: I Was Wrong About Speed Reading (2015)

#12

I practice what could be called "speed listening" -- listening to audiobooks and podcasts (and watching videos) at 2x to 3x speed. It saves a lot of time, and I only wish I'd started sooner.

I used to do that, but now listen at 1x as it gives me time to have creative thoughts over what was said which helps me to retain the meaning behind the words.

Re: I Was Wrong About Speed Reading (2015)

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post #11

Reading speed strikes me similarly to typing speed when it comes to programming. It's fun to read/type fast, but it's not really the bottleneck.

The best way to speed read is if the writer reduces the number of words required to communicate and educate. Of course this takes extra effort, and is also goes against human perception of value. E.g. if you reduced Tim Ferris's book to a single sheet of A4 you could get the point across, but who's going to pay $20 or so for a sheet of A4? Well some execs might pay $2000 - but you won't sell millions of copies like that. Anyway...

To sum it up that book:

To work fewer hours per week in the long term, set up a business, and figure out how to automate, speed up and delegate as much of the work as possible. Imagine a few cool inspiration inducing anecdotes alluding to a cool lifestyle. Read elsewhere for the bit about how to set up a successful business in the first place, or the details of how to automate and delegate effectively.

There you go - 200 or so pages you don't need to read :-)

Re: I Was Wrong About Speed Reading (2015)

#15
On “subvocalization” ...

> It’s simply not possible to comprehend what you’re reading and avoid using that inner voice. So reading faster means being able to use this inner voice faster, not eliminating it. To further that, expert speed readers who were studied also subvocalized, they just did it faster.

I’ve seen this argued elsewhere, and am not convinced they’ve found readers who do not subvocalize to study. Most readers subvocalize. Even if you don’t, if you ask about it, then you do (like asking someone to not think about their breathing).

If you do not normally subvocalize, you become painfully aware of it when you drop into it, feels like slamming on the brakes, and very difficult to let go of again.

I suspect the studies referenced[1] have simply not studied those who don’t subvocalize, akin to studies missing the phenomenon of aphantasia until 2015. Or, they’ve established experimental conditions where the reader cannot help but think about it, causing it to occur.

1. https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4229

Re: I Was Wrong About Speed Reading (2015)

#16

I think my reading efficacy can be improved significantly by not spending time reading junk and spending more time reading good stuff. That is, I have a prioritization problem not a throughput problem. Most people I know are like this.

Most books have value, even if it wasn't what the author intended. Read a book like you would eat a meal, smell it, take small bites of a couple chapters and see if it is something you like or would like to make on your own.

So many people start at one portion and slog their way through like a backhoe excavating a building site. Skim, summarize, catalog and synthesize. Of course all of this is directed at non-fiction works.

Re: I Was Wrong About Speed Reading (2015)

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I've been reading (and writing) considerable amounts, pretty much every day all my life since I was 12-ish (and ~15), 37 as I speak. I'm cognitively no genius by any metric but certainly 'well capable' relatively to most people (strong points being speed of thought, clarity/precision to a fault, powerful synthesis). I however have a bad factual memory in general, I need to 'do' or 'understand' things to really memorize (e.g. I suck at poems, lyrics, can't even remember mine, but I love systems, physics, logic).

Without explanations or hazardous 'hypotheses' (hum) as to why, here are my observations and personal 'tricks'. Spoiler: no magic, just directed effort, solving for X.

- There is an inverse relationship between speed and depth of information input. The faster you take it in, even if you feel like you understand all of it (and may, factually), the shallower your actual intake will be in the long run. Generally. Emotions act as a catalyzer for memory, but cloud thinking temporarily.

- The more massive a piece of content (book, article..), the slower I want to go if I aim at a constant result (comprehension, food for thought, memory, etc). I may speed up when cruising if the content lends itself to that (repetitive, very structured, etc). Essentially, whenever recent memory won't cut it to think and remember, because there's too much content, or it's too complex, I need my long-term memory sparked into activation.

- I read fast in general, but it has nothing to do with 'techniques' related to the act of reading itself: it's entirely a mental 'mode' or 'state', that I only ever get otherwise in sports, this moment when you just trigger the beast and commit entirely to victory. When you just won't fail, when it's 'all-in'. That level of focus, of concentration, is best exercised with training, of any kind. So indeed you need to think, not just read, and actually want to even write and use the substance if you are to maximize its results on you.

- It's very important for me to begin slow, whatever the average pace later on. I need to get acquainted with the author, their go-to vocabulary and grammar subsets, the point they're making. Sometimes it never clicks and the whole piece is tedious for me. Sometimes it's so clear I feel like I could have written it myself, at least the structure of it. It's a thing, hard to explain. I guess why all we have our own favorites and dreaded authors.

I like people who speak relatively fast because I don't get easily distracted or bored when they talk to me, so speeding up audiobooks is a personal treat; but there's a limit if I want to retain anything more than fuzzy snapshots of partial points. I may understand 100% on the spot (I actually do nothing else but listen and focus), but it's evading memory, evaporating in the long run. Ultimately it means that book won't change me beyond a few impressions, it just won't make its mark, it never had a chance to imbue my consciousness — only my superficial cognition. However sharp, it can't substitute for the real thing.

An exercise I do if I really want to use or remember (be 'changed') by some piece of content — article, book, chapter, quote, podcast, piece of code... — is to do the "good student duty" of writing a short essay: summarize what you read, raise a few interesting points about it, elaborate a bit beyond (make that new material become food for your thought, use it like it's a new word you just learned, or a new math technique).

It only takes ~30 minutes or so, easily 10 minutes if the material is easy, an hour if it blew your mind, I don't know... well worth it, because it has a lasting power for years. But do it well, because that exercise you 'submit' to no one but yourself will become part of the memory of that content, you will see your own words sometimes before/above the actual author's.

Hopefully this helps someone trying it my way. The hard way. The no-genius no-magic no-trick way. The way that lets one play in the present with stuff learned 10, 20 years before.

TL;DR: the faster you read, the shallower it gets beyond some sweet spot, probably biological but trainable; speed is good when it forces you to focus, but not beyond that — it must not become a distraction from actual understanding. If that is your goal. Using at least in thought what you read is my preferred way to really internalize something, make it mine, thus remember it for long enough usually. At least I probably won't be able to forget that it exists, and then I can search it for finer points.

Re: I Was Wrong About Speed Reading (2015)

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I was obsessed with speed reading at one point and still practice some of the techniques. I can attest to the author's recommendation to skim before reading. Especially with challenging material, I find skimming first reduces anxiety-induced procrastination. The material becomes less intimidating once you've "gotten to the last page," even if fraudulently. Then you can go back and read, perhaps selectively and non-linearly, until you understand it.

Speed reading attracted me because I easily get bored and drift off. If the pace is faster, I can stay engaged better. It's not really about speed or saving time (the irony of that while posting on HN).

Re: I Was Wrong About Speed Reading (2015)

#19
My personal experience with speed reading is that the limiting bottleneck factor for me is the speed at which i can internalize complex grammatical structures.

I also sub-vocalize some words but not others. In fact, the claim that one must sub-vocalize every word is contradicted by my experience reading Chinese characters, sometimes I can understand characters without knowing how to say them.

Re: I Was Wrong About Speed Reading (2015)

#20

I practice what could be called "speed listening" -- listening to audiobooks and podcasts (and watching videos) at 2x to 3x speed. It saves a lot of time, and I only wish I'd started sooner.

I used to do that, but now listen at 1x as it gives me time to have creative thoughts over what was said which helps me to retain the meaning behind the words.

I listen to most things above 1x speed specifically so that I don't have time to have creative thoughts about what I'm listening to, as that quickly leads to me no longer actually listening. Instead I have to specifically pause it if I want to stop and think about it.
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