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Why Creativity Is a Numbers Game (2015)

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Personally I feel that creativity is something like saturating a solution with ideas until you get that one seed crystal and then everything just comes together. If it wasn't already full of thoughts and ideas already, that seed would simply dissolve.

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"It's a great myth that creative geniuses consistently produce great work. Whereas consistency may be the key to expertise, the secret to creative greatness appears to be doing things differently—even when that means failing"

Genius is genetic. Some people just seem to "stumble" upon ideas and methods, but its not random. Why there seems to be such pervasive efforts to prove anything other than the obvious is a mystery to me.

EDIT:

wikpedia page on it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jewish_intelligence

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post #11

Personally I feel that creativity is something like saturating a solution with ideas until you get that one seed crystal and then everything just comes together. If it wasn't already full of thoughts and ideas already, that seed would simply dissolve.

Perhaps in that spirit this will interest you:

http://www.ramatirtha.org/vol1/inspiration.htm

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"It's a great myth that creative geniuses consistently produce great work. Whereas consistency may be the key to expertise, the secret to creative greatness appears to be doing things differently—even when that means failing" Genius is genetic. Some people just seem to "stumble" upon ideas and methods, but its not random. Why there seems to be such pervasive efforts to prove anything other than the obvious is a myste…

> Genius is genetic.

Citation? This seems far from obvious to me. I get that intelligence is some percent heritable, but that’s not the same.

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"It's a great myth that creative geniuses consistently produce great work. Whereas consistency may be the key to expertise, the secret to creative greatness appears to be doing things differently—even when that means failing" Genius is genetic. Some people just seem to "stumble" upon ideas and methods, but its not random. Why there seems to be such pervasive efforts to prove anything other than the obvious is a myste…

> Genius is genetic. Citation? This seems far from obvious to me. I get that intelligence is some percent heritable, but that’s not the same.

It's just politically incorrect, so mainstream scientists wont publish it/arent discussing it in public. Read about ahskenazi jewish people. Both founders of FB and Google are ashkenazi for example

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Genius is genetic. Citation? This seems far from obvious to me. I get that intelligence is some percent heritable, but that’s not the same.

It's just politically incorrect, so mainstream scientists wont publish it/arent discussing it in public. Read about ahskenazi jewish people. Both founders of FB and Google are ashkenazi for example

> ahskenazi

Dude, there are other factors that I'll consider more important than their tribe.

1. Their family's net worth.

2. The high school they attended

If there's is a high level of creativity in their tribe, then I'll lean towards the idea of creativity boosting cultural practices than genes.

In Nigeria for instance, the Hausa aren't known for their intelligence, and have a reputation for being plain dumb but very violent especially for religious causes (Islam).

The Yorubas are known for being bookworms - they have the highest rates of schooling in the country. And are quite political.

The igbos are known for their entrepreneurship prowress. They tend not to value schooling and are blunt with their words. They claim to have a jewish ancestory.

Someone who's not familiar with their history would claim these differences to be genetic. However, some historical accidents and cultural and religious differences are key.

The igbos have the highest rate of apprenticeship in the country. And they embody the phrase, "Money talks bullshit walks" to a fault. This explains their business acumen. Their language doesn't have honorifics unlike the yorubas.

The seas brought Europeans to the southern part of the country where the Yorubas dwell and for a long while, the capital of the country was located there too. Hence the value for schooling and politics.

Add Islamic schools, very hot weather - and a religion of marrying many wives at an early age and you get the Hausas. They make up the majority of the army as being a soldier is about the only path to a better life.

Conclusion, you'd need to study the history and culture of the Ahskenazi before claiming a genetic predisposition to creativity.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's just politically incorrect, so mainstream scientists wont publish it/arent discussing it in public. Read about ahskenazi jewish people. Both founders of FB and Google are ashkenazi for example

> ahskenazi Dude, there are other factors that I'll consider more important than their tribe. 1. Their family's net worth. 2. The high school they attended If there's is a high level of creativity in their tribe, then I'll lean towards the idea of creativity boosting cultural practices than genes. In Nigeria for instance, the Hausa aren't known for their intelligence, and have a reputation for being plain dumb but ve…

Sure, dig your head in the sand

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Genius is genetic. Citation? This seems far from obvious to me. I get that intelligence is some percent heritable, but that’s not the same.

It's just politically incorrect, so mainstream scientists wont publish it/arent discussing it in public. Read about ahskenazi jewish people. Both founders of FB and Google are ashkenazi for example

The assertion you're making is a testable idea. You can check if some apparent trait is genetic or cultural by looking at children adopted by other ethnicities.

They've done quite a number of studies like that, including studies on identical twins adopted by different parents, which gives you matching DNA.

The reason scientists aren't saying such things, is because it's pretty clearly wrong.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's just politically incorrect, so mainstream scientists wont publish it/arent discussing it in public. Read about ahskenazi jewish people. Both founders of FB and Google are ashkenazi for example

The assertion you're making is a testable idea. You can check if some apparent trait is genetic or cultural by looking at children adopted by other ethnicities. They've done quite a number of studies like that, including studies on identical twins adopted by different parents, which gives you matching DNA. The reason scientists aren't saying such things, is because it's pretty clearly wrong.

Just google ashkenazi genius, jewish Nobel prize, its all over the internet.

Heres a wikipedia page on it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jewish_intelligence

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