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Debian 6.0 “Squeeze” released

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Re: Debian 6.0 “Squeeze” released

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Good to see my favorite distro moving forward! I only wish they could have managed to ship Perl 5.12 rather than 5.10.

I love debian too, but I don't understand why they're so far behind. OpenSSL in squeeze is v. 0.9.8o-4? http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/openssl C'mon, guys, the latest current OpenSSL is already at v. 1.2.2 This is why I'm switching to ubuntu.

What Debian released is an stable distribution that is going to be maintained for the next 3 or 4 years. It is better to release something stable and well tested than bleeding edge stuff.

Many people don't get Debian. This is a released aimed for servers and stable workstations. If you want or need bleeding edge stuff you can use Debian testing/unstable or Ubuntu as you suggested.

Re: Debian 6.0 “Squeeze” released

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Debian and Arch are my two favorite Linux distributions. If only Debian distributed a version compiled for an i686 also. I know it probably wont make a huge difference for most programs. But it niggles at my sensibilities that I am not using the architecture to its full. Arch is pretty awesome in that field, but I would be wary of running it on production servers. For me Debian testing has been the best compromise, and I have never faced stability issues with that.

Edit: corrected by removing "and x86-64"

Re: Debian 6.0 “Squeeze” released

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post #12

Debian and Arch are my two favorite Linux distributions. If only Debian distributed a version compiled for an i686 also. I know it probably wont make a huge difference for most programs. But it niggles at my sensibilities that I am not using the architecture to its full. Arch is pretty awesome in that field, but I would be wary of running it on production servers. For me Debian testing has been the best compromise, a…

> If only Debian also distributed a version compiled for an i686 and x86-64. I know it probably wont make a huge difference for most programs. But it niggles at my sensibilities that I am not using the architecture to its full.

Um, I think they do have a x64 version...

    $ cat /etc/debian_version 
    6.0

    $ file /bin/bash
    /bin/bash: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically link
    ed (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, stripped

    $ file /lib/libc-2.11.2.so 
    /lib/libc-2.11.2.so: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dyn
    amically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, stripped

Re: Debian 6.0 “Squeeze” released

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post #12

Debian and Arch are my two favorite Linux distributions. If only Debian distributed a version compiled for an i686 also. I know it probably wont make a huge difference for most programs. But it niggles at my sensibilities that I am not using the architecture to its full. Arch is pretty awesome in that field, but I would be wary of running it on production servers. For me Debian testing has been the best compromise, a…

> If only Debian also distributed a version compiled for an i686 and x86-64. I know it probably wont make a huge difference for most programs. But it niggles at my sensibilities that I am not using the architecture to its full. Um, I think they do have a x64 version... $ cat /etc/debian_version 6.0 $ file /bin/bash /bin/bash: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically link ed (uses shared libs),…

Oops my bad. I know, 'cause I am running one. What the hell was I thinking.

Re: Debian 6.0 “Squeeze” released

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Debian userland on top of the FreeBSD kernel? Was there demand for this? Or, was it primarily to sidestep the GPL stuff and incorporate ZFS?

I suspect a developer had an itch to scatch. See http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD_why

Thats how Linux started :)

Re: Debian 6.0 “Squeeze” released

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Debian and Arch are my two favorite Linux distributions. If only Debian distributed a version compiled for an i686 also. I know it probably wont make a huge difference for most programs. But it niggles at my sensibilities that I am not using the architecture to its full. Arch is pretty awesome in that field, but I would be wary of running it on production servers. For me Debian testing has been the best compromise, a…

I've always used Debian on my servers, but like you, I also really like Arch Linux. So last year, I decided just to see what it would be like to run an Arch server. I installed it on a VPS using kernel26-lts, and besides having to do some diffs between new and old configs when updating packages, it really hasn't been that bad. I've never had the problem where a program would be completely broken when updating.

Only since last month, Arch includes glibc 2.12.2. Unfortunately, my VPS host only gives a CentOS 5.4 recovery image using kernel 2.6.18, meaning that since the newer glibc requires kernel 2.6.27, I'm unable to chroot into my install if I ever needed to.

Re: Debian 6.0 “Squeeze” released

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Debian's website also received an upgrade[1]:

> On the occasion of the release of Debian 6.0 Squeeze, the Debian website team is pleased to publish a new design for Debian's web presence. After roughly 13 years with nearly the same design, the layout and design of many of the websites run by Debian changed together with today's release of Debian Squeeze. Debian's main website and its wiki, lists archive, blog aggregator planet and package information system now have a consistent new layout. The new layout is meant to give Debian's web presence a cleaner and more modern look as well as making the web pages easier to use and navigate.

[1]: http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110205b

Re: Debian 6.0 “Squeeze” released

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post #12

Debian and Arch are my two favorite Linux distributions. If only Debian distributed a version compiled for an i686 also. I know it probably wont make a huge difference for most programs. But it niggles at my sensibilities that I am not using the architecture to its full. Arch is pretty awesome in that field, but I would be wary of running it on production servers. For me Debian testing has been the best compromise, a…

I've always used Debian on my servers, but like you, I also really like Arch Linux. So last year, I decided just to see what it would be like to run an Arch server. I installed it on a VPS using kernel26-lts, and besides having to do some diffs between new and old configs when updating packages, it really hasn't been that bad. I've never had the problem where a program would be completely broken when updating. Only s…

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