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Another day, another survey by a company desperate to get attention by defensive Apple fans. Sad how well the tactic works. So I guess Android is done then. Lets shut her down! Or we could just wait and see how it pans out.
Good to see Fortune doing their journalistic duty and checking the integrity of their sources.
these surveys are meaning-less What the actual number you have to care about is new subscribers. New subscribers to AT&T for iphone 4 was less than 10% last quarter. Carriers will always choose those devices that they 'think' can give a new subscribers rate boost, hence Nokia failing in the US for some time with out-of-date-ui. If Verizon iphone results in 10% or more new subscribers than Verizon made the right decis…
Is that from the carriers perspective or is that also the number Apple and Google care about? Doesn’t seem like it, does it?
Also, 10 percent more compared to what?
Another day, another survey by a company desperate to get attention by defensive Apple fans. Sad how well the tactic works. So I guess Android is done then. Lets shut her down! Or we could just wait and see how it pans out.
Don’t you think you are kinda sorta defensive there?
I find these surveys in all their forms to be garbage, whatever the purported outcome is. They're almost always online (because it's no-name, no-budget survey companies), self-selecting surveys, and they seldom have any relationship to reality. Lazy bloggers use it to fluff up coverage.
Funny that the Fortune guy posted it given that I called him out for a prior one - http://blog.yafla.com/Lazy_Surveys_Enable_A_Lazy_Press/
I have demolished more surveys than I care to explain. I just have lost the desire to point out how naive people are for falling for this nonsense again, and again, and again.
But again -- let's revisit it in a couple of months, after those millions of Android users have switched.
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Don’t you think you are kinda sorta defensive there?
Do you think I am? I find these surveys in all their forms to be garbage , whatever the purported outcome is. They're almost always online (because it's no-name, no-budget survey companies), self-selecting surveys, and they seldom have any relationship to reality. Lazy bloggers use it to fluff up coverage. Funny that the Fortune guy posted it given that I called him out for a prior one - http://blog.yafla.com/Lazy_Su…
The survey is in all likelihood garbage (i.e. doesn’t tell us anything about how successful or unsuccessful the iPhone will be on Verizon), we don’t even have to talk about that. I’m talking about you saying “ […] defensive Apple fans. Sad how well the tactic works.”
Why do you need to write crap like that?
The title is incorrect. The survey is of 700 AT&T and Verizon users. Also the 44% figure comes from this: > Among Android owners, 44% are either very likely (19%) or somewhat likely (25%) to buy an iPhone on Feb. 10. Not all of these will actually do that of course but it does show there is definite excitement about this phone, so much so that (IMHO) you will see a noticeable impact on the Q1 smartphone shipments and…
Consider that when these current Verizon subscribers/Android users/iPhone aspirers made their most recent smartphone purchase, the iPhone was already a mature product and they likely considered two options:
1. Stay with Verizon and get an Android phone. 2. Switch to AT&T and get an iPhone.
Those who are now Verizon/Android consumers all demonstrated a preference for staying with their preferred network over adopting the iPhone, indicating a (relatively) weaker preference for the iPhone compared to similar customers who switched at that point to AT&T. Those who switched were more likely to have made a disruptive decision to terminate an existing contract early, whereas those staying with Verizon likely made a status quo choice to stay with their current provider. Opting to stay with Verizon and play the "wait-and-see" game on the iPhone, those claiming to be "somewhat likely" to switch to the iPhone have already considered making the switch once and chose not to. I find it unlikely that these consumers will be turning out in massive numbers on day 1 to get an iPhone.
All of this is not intended to question that releasing the iPhone on Verizon does pose a challenge to Android. I simply believe that the massive flight to iPhones is not a fait accompli and will play out over the course of several months or a year, rather than on February 10. This suggests that the makers of Android devices have a short window in which to improve their competitive posture, in the form of more aggressive pricing or new products with better features, in the few months after the Verizon rollout.
these surveys are meaning-less What the actual number you have to care about is new subscribers. New subscribers to AT&T for iphone 4 was less than 10% last quarter. Carriers will always choose those devices that they 'think' can give a new subscribers rate boost, hence Nokia failing in the US for some time with out-of-date-ui. If Verizon iphone results in 10% or more new subscribers than Verizon made the right decis…
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Do you think I am? I find these surveys in all their forms to be garbage , whatever the purported outcome is. They're almost always online (because it's no-name, no-budget survey companies), self-selecting surveys, and they seldom have any relationship to reality. Lazy bloggers use it to fluff up coverage. Funny that the Fortune guy posted it given that I called him out for a prior one - http://blog.yafla.com/Lazy_Su…
You sure are. The survey is in all likelihood garbage (i.e. doesn’t tell us anything about how successful or unsuccessful the iPhone will be on Verizon), we don’t even have to talk about that. I’m talking about you saying “ […] defensive Apple fans. Sad how well the tactic works.” Why do you need to write crap like that?
We've had survey, after survey, after survey, foretelling doom and gloom for Android. All while actual metrics have shown it gaining marketshare by leaps and bounds. If I have to pick between reality and "what a self-selected group picks on an online form, usually to get offered a $5 Amazon certificate or the like", I'll choose the former.
My observation stands. Just noticed that the original poster has the email address "iphone". Indeed.