Amazon, Apple, Google, and the Zigbee Alliance to develop connectivity standard

Post by ocdtrekkie » Wed, Dec 18, 2019, 1:57 PM UTC

StavrosK wrote: post #7

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #4

The reason I can say my smarthome is relatively secure is explicitly because it doesn't use IP. It's good they're trying to standardize, but you're gonna have a problem when you try to use a firewall to inspect what these devices are up to and find that they're all making encrypted tunnels back to their home bases and won't work without them.

The reason I can say my smarthome is relatively secure is because I don't allow any of the devices to access the internet. IP or not seems irrelevant.

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Dec 18, 2019, 1:59 PM UTC

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #11

StavrosK wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reason I can say my smarthome is relatively secure is because I don't allow any of the devices to access the internet. IP or not seems irrelevant.

The high level of sophistication of IP networking and the fact that one small mistake could mean your devices access the Internet is why a network that doesn't talk IP is almost inherently safer than one that does.

Post by 1over137 » Wed, Dec 18, 2019, 2:04 PM UTC

slantyyz wrote: post #12

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #4

The reason I can say my smarthome is relatively secure is explicitly because it doesn't use IP. It's good they're trying to standardize, but you're gonna have a problem when you try to use a firewall to inspect what these devices are up to and find that they're all making encrypted tunnels back to their home bases and won't work without them.

I've been gradually retiring my wifi smart devices in favor of Z-wave because I find them far more reliable and much easier to maintain and manage. It's also a little annoying having a pile of wifi devices whose only purpose is to manage an on-off state consume IP addresses on my network.

Post by H1Supreme » Wed, Dec 18, 2019, 2:05 PM UTC

Post by josteink » Wed, Dec 18, 2019, 2:07 PM UTC

gtirloni wrote: post #9

basch wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering Apple, Amazon, and Google are already members of the Zigbee alliance, it makes you wonder why it had to be a new working group and not a new group within Zigbee. Its like saying Cowboys, 49ers, Patriots, and the NFL join together to create a new football league.

I think the keyword is "over IP". My understanding is that Zigbee works at the lower layers.