Or responsive web design techniques apparently.
I don’t use Semantic Web technologies anymore, though they still influence me
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#14I have some low-level hate for the Semantic Web. I run a small personal blog that I maintain using a relatively simple static site generator that I created that turns markdown files into clean(ish) html. A couple of months ago I got interested in adding semantic information to my posts so I modified the generator to add some of the common semantic tags. It was an annoying job, since the semantic information pollutes…
I can't imagine what semantic tags would pollute a blog's markup as most of the semantic tags were designed to structure simple text content like a blog post. Do you have any examples? > Is it for search engines? Yes. And Accessibility.
Using semantic HTML means using rather than yet another . What GP is referring to, however, is adding extra information to your HTML detailing what kind of data is in your tags, e.g.:
Christopher Froome was sponsored by
Sky in the Tour de France.
Here, the vocab, typeof and property attributes are used to add semantic information to the HTML. It might also give you an idea of why one might consider that a chore, especially if it doesn't appear to provide any benefit, like making your site accessible to users of screen readers.Re: I don’t use Semantic Web technologies anymore, though they still influence me
#15You can hook in your own reconciliation end point which we do at work to expand internal knowledge graphs.
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#17I have also seen a great deal of consultant money, programmer time, sys-admin sweat, and the like focused on these toweringly-designed, completely-unused triple stores, layer upon layer of hot technologies (ever-moving, construction on the tower never ceased) fused together to create a resource-intense monstrosity that, at the end of the day, barely got used. But hey, let's look at that jazz semantic web example one more time.
The most painful part is that I understand the urge to build a gleaming repository for information, where the cool URIs never change; SPARQLing pinnacles, ready to broadcast the Library of Alexandria, glimmer; and the serene manifold of abstract information lies RESTful ... but I have come to understand that the web of today is an endlessly bulldozed mudscape where Someone Very Important has to have that URL top-level yesterday (never mind that they will forget about it tomorrow), of shoddy materials and wildly varying workmanship, and where nobody is listening to your eager endpoints because the commercials are just too loud. I too once labored for information architecture, to have the correct thing in the obvious place, with accurate links and current knowledge, to provide visitors with the knowledge they desired ... but PR preempted all of it to push yet more nice photographs in yet another place: the Web as a technology for distributing images that would once live on glossy pamphlets.
The vision is lovely, but we who have always lived in the castle have walked alone.
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#18schema.org and WikiData are great resources and for large companies, using these as a foundation for their own internal Knowledge Graphs can make sense. This expense is (maybe?) too large for small and medium size companies, they would not get enough benefit for the cost.
I worked with Google’s Knowledge Graph as a contractor, and I am still a believer in the technology but I also respect other people’s well founded scepticism.
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#19I really want to like semantic web technologies, but every time I try to get into them I'm stymied: * A zillion standards that all reference each other * Two zillion incomplete and incompatible implementations of those specifications * No sense of direction within it all (what's the easy path?) * Multiple rebrandings of the same ideas (Semantic Web, Linked Data, Solid...)
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#20At an old job, I knew some very idealistic folks who kept pushing semantic web business. "Let's do that everywhere!" As an exercise, I would have them open a browser, visit various sites, and then look at the source. "Go on, check to see if it validates," I would say with an anticipatory grin. Whether hand-crafted HTML or generated by any number of frameworks, many sites can barely manage to close their tags, asking…
Remember when microformats were all the rage, and you could get hReview or hRecipe or XFN data everywhere?
Then every host in turn realized that actually, it's _better_ if people can't scrape your site, and it's even better if they can't even see it and it's behind a login wall.