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If Logged into Facebook, Oculus VR Data Will Now Be Used for Ads

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Re: If Logged into Facebook, Oculus VR Data Will Now Be Used for Ads

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It’s Facebook’s service, what did you expect. Also, recommending products based on your past experiences is something pretty much every service provides.

> recommending products based on your past experiences

I've recommended music and movies to people without any prior compensation from the companies that put those products out.

What Facebook is doing is advertising. "Personalized recommendations" is marketing doublespeak for "pay to play".

Re: If Logged into Facebook, Oculus VR Data Will Now Be Used for Ads

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A surprise to exactly nobody. When are people going to stop rewarding the exploitative behavior of Facebook and its offspring?

Yes. However, it is not apparent which inferences are possible to make with this kind of sensor data. How invasive might this become?

There are cameras and microphones on the things

Re: If Logged into Facebook, Oculus VR Data Will Now Be Used for Ads

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post #4

A surprise to exactly nobody. When are people going to stop rewarding the exploitative behavior of Facebook and its offspring?

Yes. However, it is not apparent which inferences are possible to make with this kind of sensor data. How invasive might this become?

> How invasive might this become?

Brain-wave-scanning kind of invasive. FB (and advertising in general) will continue to become ever more invasive until it meets a limiting factor. That limiting factor will possibly be legislation (just not in the US because worshiping the Dollar overrides anything and everything else).

Re: If Logged into Facebook, Oculus VR Data Will Now Be Used for Ads

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And this is the reason I never touch anything that has a connection to Facebook. No surprise really but it irks me as I wanted the rift some time ago but then Facebook bought it. Luckily it seems like Valve Index will be a good alternative.

Valve won't collect data?

Re: If Logged into Facebook, Oculus VR Data Will Now Be Used for Ads

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. However, it is not apparent which inferences are possible to make with this kind of sensor data. How invasive might this become?

It is not exactly clear to me whether you are down playing the implications or not, but lets assume you are: If this weren't invasive, they wouldn't be doing it. What use would random data be to Facebook? Also, it is irrelevant: if I buy a VR set I want to use it for whatever I see fit, not get hooked into some data collection machine. How is it that we have come to accept that in order to use products, that we buy e…

I'm not. I believe that this kind of data in combination with machine learning makes for the perfect storm. While users may not understand the difference from before.

Re: If Logged into Facebook, Oculus VR Data Will Now Be Used for Ads

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A surprise to exactly nobody. When are people going to stop rewarding the exploitative behavior of Facebook and its offspring?

They won't. People buy what's in the store / is marketed and expect products to work , functionally, but also in the greater context, in their effect on society as a whole. Voting with the dollar does not generally work to steer corporate behaviour.

And facebook is not a traditional corporate structure so holding facebook/Zuck accountable can only be accomplished via legislation.

Re: If Logged into Facebook, Oculus VR Data Will Now Be Used for Ads

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And this is the reason I never touch anything that has a connection to Facebook. No surprise really but it irks me as I wanted the rift some time ago but then Facebook bought it. Luckily it seems like Valve Index will be a good alternative.

Valve won't collect data?

They might, but they don't have facebooks apparatus or motivation for turning it into ads on unrelated web pages.

Re: If Logged into Facebook, Oculus VR Data Will Now Be Used for Ads

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A surprise to exactly nobody. When are people going to stop rewarding the exploitative behavior of Facebook and its offspring?

They won't. People buy what's in the store / is marketed and expect products to work , functionally, but also in the greater context, in their effect on society as a whole. Voting with the dollar does not generally work to steer corporate behaviour.

Yeah in the same sense your vote doesn't decide the election. It certainly has worked wiith many missteps fallen into obscurity. Marketing is a post-facto category for success. If everything is done right for a campaign but the CEO says something outrageous it is all undone like the infamous Gerald Rattner incident.

Re: If Logged into Facebook, Oculus VR Data Will Now Be Used for Ads

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A surprise to exactly nobody. When are people going to stop rewarding the exploitative behavior of Facebook and its offspring?

the problem, as i see it, is not with data collection itself. because the larger public 1. does not care 2. does not seem concerned. 3. the collected data is deemed harmless to the user.

what worries me is the sampling itself. or how diverse the sample is. using VR users data to draw any conclusion is misrepresenting the larger population. now if we are all into VR or use it, this might be different...

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