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Why the ‘Queen of Shitty Robots’ Renounced Her Crown

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Re: Why the ‘Queen of Shitty Robots’ Renounced Her Crown

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Post by ramraj07 »

DagAgren wrote: post #2

> For a long time, building shitty robots meant Giertz never had to face failure, even if the robots themselves failed. “One of the things that I've been trying to figure out is: Was building shitty robots in some way a method for me to minimize myself, to make myself smaller?” Giertz says. “Because that's what I notice—a lot of women being really scared to step up and be an expert.” This rings really true, and as fu…

On the contrary, it's a bit sad that she failed to see the real value she was offering - she didn't have to worry about the robot failing, but she most definitely had to worry about the VIDEO failing. An uninteresting video with a flawless robot is far less interesting than a video from Simone about a knife chopping robot that can't really chop, because it was still funny and insightful.

She started the genre but it's now bigger than her, with interesting characters like Michael Reeves. Apparently he's not bogged down by the same insecurities as her, which just sucks. I'd rather have dumb but interesting robots from both of them and not just one.

Re: Why the ‘Queen of Shitty Robots’ Renounced Her Crown

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Post by de_watcher »

macspoofing wrote: post #10
DagAgren wrote: post #2

> For a long time, building shitty robots meant Giertz never had to face failure, even if the robots themselves failed. “One of the things that I've been trying to figure out is: Was building shitty robots in some way a method for me to minimize myself, to make myself smaller?” Giertz says. “Because that's what I notice—a lot of women being really scared to step up and be an expert.” This rings really true, and as fu…

>She's really funny and talented and deserves a lot more than shitty robots. Why? There's nothing wrong with moving onto other things and pursuing other interests, but she has this perplexing perspective (which you echoed in this statement) that somehow the 'shitty robots' content was something to look down on. It was good stuff, and if she wanted to continue, it would have been perfectly fine and something you could…

Wow, I thought the whole purpose was to invent a funny way of how a robot can fail...

Of course she can make better actually functioning robots than I can.

Re: Why the ‘Queen of Shitty Robots’ Renounced Her Crown

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Post by DagAgren »

macspoofing wrote: post #10
DagAgren wrote: post #2

> For a long time, building shitty robots meant Giertz never had to face failure, even if the robots themselves failed. “One of the things that I've been trying to figure out is: Was building shitty robots in some way a method for me to minimize myself, to make myself smaller?” Giertz says. “Because that's what I notice—a lot of women being really scared to step up and be an expert.” This rings really true, and as fu…

>She's really funny and talented and deserves a lot more than shitty robots. Why? There's nothing wrong with moving onto other things and pursuing other interests, but she has this perplexing perspective (which you echoed in this statement) that somehow the 'shitty robots' content was something to look down on. It was good stuff, and if she wanted to continue, it would have been perfectly fine and something you could…

Nobody has said that they were anything to look down on. They were funny, they were successful, they made her famous.

However, it can at the same time be true that they represented her own fear of failure, and were holding her back from actually fulfilling her real potential.

Re: Why the ‘Queen of Shitty Robots’ Renounced Her Crown

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Post by DagAgren »

ramraj07 wrote: post #11
DagAgren wrote: post #2

> For a long time, building shitty robots meant Giertz never had to face failure, even if the robots themselves failed. “One of the things that I've been trying to figure out is: Was building shitty robots in some way a method for me to minimize myself, to make myself smaller?” Giertz says. “Because that's what I notice—a lot of women being really scared to step up and be an expert.” This rings really true, and as fu…

On the contrary, it's a bit sad that she failed to see the real value she was offering - she didn't have to worry about the robot failing, but she most definitely had to worry about the VIDEO failing. An uninteresting video with a flawless robot is far less interesting than a video from Simone about a knife chopping robot that can't really chop, because it was still funny and insightful. She started the genre but it'…

The videos were funny. They had value.

But they were also a gimmick. A single joke, repeated. And sticking with the same joke would be sad. She can do other things, and she's daring to do other things now, and those other things are hilarious. They are not uninteresting in any way, they are much richer than the simple joke robots.

Re: Why the ‘Queen of Shitty Robots’ Renounced Her Crown

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Post by DagAgren »

worldsayshi wrote: post #5
2rsf wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think her shitty robots are something to look down at, she not only used a decent amount of technology but also had imagination, creativity, fun and had a talent to get the viewers involved. It takes an expert to get to her level, and a lot of guts. I wish her luck and success in every way she chooses, but I find the new Giertz more bland and less fun (and I don't like the fact she has left Sweden when I move…

Making "shitty robots" seem to me as the perfect stepping stone towards building actually good robots. I don't see that there can be any better way to learn really (It makes you deliver something that also makes you learn something). Except maybe doing that while also studying all the theory that you may possibly make use of when building robots.

But as she says, she wasn't doing that. She was making funny videos about crap robots so she wouldn't have to face the fear of trying to build something good, and failing.

That isn't learning, it's the exact opposite. And that is why she stopped.

Re: Why the ‘Queen of Shitty Robots’ Renounced Her Crown

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Post by bhouston »

throwaway-9320 wrote: post #6
bhouston wrote: post #4

My daughter, who is interested in science and engineering loved the shitty robot videos. It was a form of engineering comedy. I guess if she wasn't a women, creating shitty robots would be just funny and inventive way that she figured out how to make money. Comedians make people laugh using inventive and unexpected constructions, she was no different. A lot of comedians do things that are in one way or another demean…

Would like to mention Mehdi (ElectroBOOM) here as he seems to match the description, but with electricity and physics: https://www.youtube.com/user/msadaghd

Yes, the guy that seems to regularly accidentally electrocute himself. He is hilarious.

Re: Why the ‘Queen of Shitty Robots’ Renounced Her Crown

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Post by taneq »

throwaway-9320 wrote: post #6
bhouston wrote: post #4

My daughter, who is interested in science and engineering loved the shitty robot videos. It was a form of engineering comedy. I guess if she wasn't a women, creating shitty robots would be just funny and inventive way that she figured out how to make money. Comedians make people laugh using inventive and unexpected constructions, she was no different. A lot of comedians do things that are in one way or another demean…

Would like to mention Mehdi (ElectroBOOM) here as he seems to match the description, but with electricity and physics: https://www.youtube.com/user/msadaghd

Seconded, this guy is great. He plays it well enough that it takes a little while of growing incredulity before you realise he’s doing it all on purpose.

Re: Why the ‘Queen of Shitty Robots’ Renounced Her Crown

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Post by themoat »

macspoofing wrote: post #10
DagAgren wrote: post #2

> For a long time, building shitty robots meant Giertz never had to face failure, even if the robots themselves failed. “One of the things that I've been trying to figure out is: Was building shitty robots in some way a method for me to minimize myself, to make myself smaller?” Giertz says. “Because that's what I notice—a lot of women being really scared to step up and be an expert.” This rings really true, and as fu…

>She's really funny and talented and deserves a lot more than shitty robots. Why? There's nothing wrong with moving onto other things and pursuing other interests, but she has this perplexing perspective (which you echoed in this statement) that somehow the 'shitty robots' content was something to look down on. It was good stuff, and if she wanted to continue, it would have been perfectly fine and something you could…

I don't really get the impression that she is looking down on it, just that she was ready to move on.

“it was harder and harder to come up with ideas. I was always concerned that it was eventually going to be like beating a dead horse, and that the joke was going to be over and I didn't have anywhere else to go.”

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