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How a Chinese Company Built a $250M Search Hijacking Empire

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Re: How a Chinese Company Built a $250M Search Hijacking Empire

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> Genimous Technology Co Ltd, a public company traded on the Shenzhen Stock Exchange under the symbol 000676, is the 12 billion CNY ($1.7 billion USD) company that is behind these extensions If you're brave, short this. Shining a light on an edge of ethical/legal business has a good chance of making their revenue dry up fast.

It’s going to be super interesting to see what the reaction to this is (if any). Even though they sound like a terrible company, everyone should take note how easy it is for Google, Mozilla, Microsoft, etc. to make them disappear from existence.

Re: How a Chinese Company Built a $250M Search Hijacking Empire

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> Genimous Technology Co Ltd, a public company traded on the Shenzhen Stock Exchange under the symbol 000676, is the 12 billion CNY ($1.7 billion USD) company that is behind these extensions If you're brave, short this. Shining a light on an edge of ethical/legal business has a good chance of making their revenue dry up fast.

It’s going to be super interesting to see what the reaction to this is (if any). Even though they sound like a terrible company, everyone should take note how easy it is for Google, Mozilla, Microsoft, etc. to make them disappear from existence.

They are supposedly driving 10% of Bing's search volume... I think Microsoft probably loves them.

Re: How a Chinese Company Built a $250M Search Hijacking Empire

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The user’s intention is to proxy the search results so it is anonymized. Based on their chrome extension description it seems to do that. It works not unlike duckduckgo. Spinning it as some Anti-Chinese national security thing is probably unnecessary.

I don't think they anonymize the search, they just send it directly to Bing or Google. Anonymizing the search wouldn't earn them any money.

How does it earn them any money to begin with? I know the article claimed they have a revenue of $250 million a year, but unless they are somehow injecting their own ads, how does a simple redirection result in any revenue for them?

Re: How a Chinese Company Built a $250M Search Hijacking Empire

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> Genimous Technology Co Ltd, a public company traded on the Shenzhen Stock Exchange under the symbol 000676, is the 12 billion CNY ($1.7 billion USD) company that is behind these extensions If you're brave, short this. Shining a light on an edge of ethical/legal business has a good chance of making their revenue dry up fast.

>>> Shining a light on an edge of ethical/legal business has a good chance of making their revenue dry up fast.

Any previous case ? Having a hard time believing that a stock is driven by ethical issues

Re: How a Chinese Company Built a $250M Search Hijacking Empire

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The user’s intention is to proxy the search results so it is anonymized. Based on their chrome extension description it seems to do that. It works not unlike duckduckgo. Spinning it as some Anti-Chinese national security thing is probably unnecessary.

I don't think they anonymize the search, they just send it directly to Bing or Google. Anonymizing the search wouldn't earn them any money.

They kind of do. They are a proxy service, so your IP and browsers are hidden I assume. The search results are coming from Bing and Google.

Re: How a Chinese Company Built a $250M Search Hijacking Empire

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So 7 million users equals a revenue of $250 million. Meaning 1 user is worth $35 on an annual basis. That’s insane! No wonder Google is so huge.

Google has $1x0,000,000,000.00 in revenue and they have no business in China. So it's more than $35 for Google, especially in US, EU, Canada, Australia etc.

Re: How a Chinese Company Built a $250M Search Hijacking Empire

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think they anonymize the search, they just send it directly to Bing or Google. Anonymizing the search wouldn't earn them any money.

How does it earn them any money to begin with? I know the article claimed they have a revenue of $250 million a year, but unless they are somehow injecting their own ads, how does a simple redirection result in any revenue for them?

They do inject their own ads

> [...] a search for “airpods” on Bing leads to a Search Encrypt search results page that has more ads than search results. A user would have to have the stamina to scroll through 10 text ads from Microsoft and then 5 image ads before coming to an organic search result

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