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Re: Firefox Full-device VPN

#11

Post by commoner »

threatofrain wrote: post #9

Mozilla need to clarify their relationship and perspective with ProtonVPN, especially because they always stay above the dirt slinging with the CEO of PIA claiming on HN and Reddit that ProtonVPN is a low credibility business.

Firefox Private Network uses Cloudflare for the browser extension and Mullvad for the desktop and mobile clients.

> Our partner for FPN Browser Protection is Cloudflare. Our partner for FPN Full-device Protection is Mullvad.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/firefox-private-networ...

Mozilla previously sold ProtonVPN as an affiliate for $10/month, but Firefox Private Network doesn't use them at all.

https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2018/10/22/testing-n...

Re: Firefox Full-device VPN

#13

Post by commoner »

hellcow wrote: post #7

Last time this was presented Mozilla mentioned a partnership with ProtonVPN. To any Mozillians reading this, what was the reason for the switch to Mullvad? Also will we be able to use our own standard Wireguard clients to connect?

It doesn't look like ProtonVPN supports WireGuard yet.

https://protonvpn.com/blog/whats-the-best-vpn-protocol/

Edit: As Gaelan mentioned below, this is an answer to hellcow's first question.

Re: Firefox Full-device VPN

#14

Post by nothrabannosir »

freedrock87 wrote: post #12

Watching Firefox sinking to essentially licensing its name like an obsolete fashion brand is sad.

Whatever it takes to get reduce their reliance on Google. Mozilla’s goals are at odds with the direction in which Google is taking Chrome, so their dependency on Google is unhealthy at best.

Money is a necessary evil, choices must be made.

Re: Firefox Full-device VPN

#15

Post by threatofrain »

commoner wrote: post #11
threatofrain wrote: post #9

Mozilla need to clarify their relationship and perspective with ProtonVPN, especially because they always stay above the dirt slinging with the CEO of PIA claiming on HN and Reddit that ProtonVPN is a low credibility business.

Firefox Private Network uses Cloudflare for the browser extension and Mullvad for the desktop and mobile clients. > Our partner for FPN Browser Protection is Cloudflare. Our partner for FPN Full-device Protection is Mullvad. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/firefox-private-networ... Mozilla previously sold ProtonVPN as an affiliate for $10/month, but Firefox Private Network doesn't use them at all. https://blog.…

But is Mozilla dropping mention of ProtonVPN due to a loss of confidence after the PIA CEO engaged in mud slinging on public forums? It’s noticeable that Mozilla never really defended their “associate”.

Re: Firefox Full-device VPN

#16

Post by commoner »

threatofrain wrote: post #15
commoner wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox Private Network uses Cloudflare for the browser extension and Mullvad for the desktop and mobile clients. > Our partner for FPN Browser Protection is Cloudflare. Our partner for FPN Full-device Protection is Mullvad. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/firefox-private-networ... Mozilla previously sold ProtonVPN as an affiliate for $10/month, but Firefox Private Network doesn't use them at all. https://blog.…

But is Mozilla dropping mention of ProtonVPN due to a loss of confidence after the PIA CEO engaged in mud slinging on public forums? It’s noticeable that Mozilla never really defended their “associate”.

Only someone from Mozilla could tell you for sure, but I think it's more likely that Mozilla didn't choose ProtonVPN for FPN because ProtonVPN doesn't currently support WireGuard.

Re: Firefox Full-device VPN

#17

Post by justusthane »

commoner wrote: post #13
hellcow wrote: post #7

Last time this was presented Mozilla mentioned a partnership with ProtonVPN. To any Mozillians reading this, what was the reason for the switch to Mullvad? Also will we be able to use our own standard Wireguard clients to connect?

It doesn't look like ProtonVPN supports WireGuard yet. https://protonvpn.com/blog/whats-the-best-vpn-protocol/ Edit: As Gaelan mentioned below, this is an answer to hellcow's first question.

The parent comment specifically states that Mozilla switched to Mullvad as the provider, and the linked article mentions that Mullvad uses Wireguard.

Re: Firefox Full-device VPN

#19

Post by jplayer01 »

I don't understand. Their partner is Mullvad. Mullvad has servers across the entire god damn globe. Why is this US-only? Why is it US-only going into early 2020, as in, months to provide service to non-US regions in what's probably going to be a limited roll-out to "select regions"? It's not the 90s anymore. It's time to drop the US-centric crap. They're not a publisher. They're not distributing movies or TV series.

Re: Firefox Full-device VPN

#20

Post by tmikaeld »

jplayer01 wrote: post #19

I don't understand. Their partner is Mullvad. Mullvad has servers across the entire god damn globe. Why is this US-only? Why is it US-only going into early 2020, as in, months to provide service to non-US regions in what's probably going to be a limited roll-out to "select regions"? It's not the 90s anymore. It's time to drop the US-centric crap. They're not a publisher. They're not distributing movies or TV series.

I think it's because Firefox have made their own client and they only want to offer Wireguard connections.

Since Wireguard is still a bit new and buggy, they probably want to make sure it's stable and roll out in stages.

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