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Google fires activist Rebecca Rivers and 3 others
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Re: Google fires activist Rebecca Rivers and 3 others
#12Google did this to themselves when they invited and fostered this culture. It had its naive merits. But like many such attempts, what happens is these groups with good intentions get coöpted and controlled by others with bigger agendas-agendas which often are not in alignment with leadership. When the PLA got too strong Mao devised the Red Guards. He didn’t want another Menshevik - Bolshevik-like episode. Nor do comp…
Google is where it is now, because they started as good guys. Everyone loved them because they were fixing problems, but they started to change since they became pubic and quarterly earnings became important.
Re: Google fires activist Rebecca Rivers and 3 others
#13Google did this to themselves when they invited and fostered this culture. It had its naive merits. But like many such attempts, what happens is these groups with good intentions get coöpted and controlled by others with bigger agendas-agendas which often are not in alignment with leadership. When the PLA got too strong Mao devised the Red Guards. He didn’t want another Menshevik - Bolshevik-like episode. Nor do comp…
I don't think google was naive. They did this intentionally and while it worked, they were willing to go with it. Now it doesn't work, so they are stamping it down. I wouldn't use the term "naive" when describing Page, Brin and especially Schmidt or google in general. Also, whether Google's motto was "Don't be evil" or "Be evil", "agenda" was going to affect their company from within/internal or without/external.
Also, anyone else find it strange that every post that has nothing to do with china has a comment that somehow tries to tie the story to china?
I get that a lot of propaganda vis a vis china is being pushed due to the trade war, but being so obvious doesn't help anything.
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#14Does firing employees for trying to unionize count as "being evil"?
Re: Google fires activist Rebecca Rivers and 3 others
#15Google did this to themselves when they invited and fostered this culture. It had its naive merits. But like many such attempts, what happens is these groups with good intentions get coöpted and controlled by others with bigger agendas-agendas which often are not in alignment with leadership. When the PLA got too strong Mao devised the Red Guards. He didn’t want another Menshevik - Bolshevik-like episode. Nor do comp…
lol this is absurd, they're fighting against rampant sexual harassment and a variety of other real workplace problems, not being mind controlled by nefarious bolsheviks
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#16Google did this to themselves when they invited and fostered this culture. It had its naive merits. But like many such attempts, what happens is these groups with good intentions get coöpted and controlled by others with bigger agendas-agendas which often are not in alignment with leadership. When the PLA got too strong Mao devised the Red Guards. He didn’t want another Menshevik - Bolshevik-like episode. Nor do comp…
lol this is absurd, they're fighting against rampant sexual harassment and a variety of other real workplace problems, not being mind controlled by nefarious bolsheviks
also, the core problem is that treating workers well is not in "alignment with leadership"
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can't have it both ways by using "don't be evil" as your mantra for a decade and then disregarding everything when it is no longer convenient.
I think they really meant it. It was the antithesis to the Microsoft of the early aughts. But now they have other, broader goals to work for. Arguably they have become more borg-ish than MS of the 00's. But they’ve come to realize that at a certain point in size idealism doesn’t scale (coöperatives, hippie communes, etc) and others will eat your lunch if you encumber yourself with idealism (which can also go in the n…
Sort of like how Jobs founded Apple as the antithesis is IBM, at least that’s how the origin story goes, and now they’re arguably closer to the latter than their original incarnation.
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#18How come half the time I see a female engineer’s name it turns out to be a transgender person? Transgender people are less than 1% of the population... is it much higher in Silicon Valley?
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
lol this is absurd, they're fighting against rampant sexual harassment and a variety of other real workplace problems, not being mind controlled by nefarious bolsheviks
also, the core problem is that treating workers well is not in "alignment with leadership"
honestly using diaeresis (things that look like umlauts) while typing stuff out about how people who don't want to work for an evil company are being controlled by other forces just gives off the biggest wannabe top hat monopoly capitalist vibe imaginable.
Re: Google fires activist Rebecca Rivers and 3 others
#20How come half the time I see a female engineer’s name it turns out to be a transgender person? Transgender people are less than 1% of the population... is it much higher in Silicon Valley?
Anecdotally speaking, I have met at least a hundred women who happened to be engineers, and none of them were trans. Then again, I don't work in Silicon Valley, lol.