Another good example of repetition that gets pleasantly hypnotic
Repetition Makes Music Beautiful [video]
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Re: Repetition Makes Music Beautiful [video]
#12Seems reminiscent of the work of Elizabeth Hellmuth Margulis, sympathetically reviewed here (http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/2014/repetition-defines-music/) — I believe her work has been on HN before, but a quick search does not turn it up.
Re: Repetition Makes Music Beautiful [video]
#13Many years ago I was playing with a music creation application. On a lark, i button mashed and created a random sequence of dissonant chords of random lengths. It sounded as awful as you would expect. I took this sequence and repeated it several times. About 15 years later I can still remember exactly how it sounded, and remember it eventually becoming pleasant to my ear.
Re: Repetition Makes Music Beautiful [video]
#14Many years ago I was playing with a music creation application. On a lark, i button mashed and created a random sequence of dissonant chords of random lengths. It sounded as awful as you would expect. I took this sequence and repeated it several times. About 15 years later I can still remember exactly how it sounded, and remember it eventually becoming pleasant to my ear.
I can somehow relate to this. You know that Human Music from Earth Radio (1)? I only listened it once and now I can't get it out of my head.
Don't know why my brain thinks it's significant enough for maybe my survive(???).
I don't even like it.
Re: Repetition Makes Music Beautiful [video]
#15He changed the chords that the audience selected and reordered them, first off. Furthermore, the demonstration does not prove or even suggest the thesis that "repetition is what makes music beautiful", the end result being of questionable beauty, the element of repetition being unclear (is he referring to the looping, or the priming effect on the audience having heard it already, or something else?), and the relevanc…
It's an Ableton ad disguised as a ted talk.
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#16Key takeaway from the video "repetition legitimizes".
i remember when i first heard that watching an Adam Neely video and it really struck me just how powerful and salient a claim it is. everything that we have come to expect of all aspects of existence is only that way because it has been repeated enough to have been made a fact of reality, and then progressively iterated upon over time with each iteration repeated until accepted. so it makes perfect sense within the c…
everything that we have come to expect of all aspects of existence is only that way because it has been repeated enough to have been made a fact of reality
What does this even mean? Repeated enough to become a fact of reality? So before it was a "fact of reality" it was being repeated, but.. wasn't yet reality? Until it was repeated enough, and then it became a fact of reality?
Who is swayed by this kind of false deepness?
Re: Repetition Makes Music Beautiful [video]
#17He changed the chords that the audience selected and reordered them, first off. Furthermore, the demonstration does not prove or even suggest the thesis that "repetition is what makes music beautiful", the end result being of questionable beauty, the element of repetition being unclear (is he referring to the looping, or the priming effect on the audience having heard it already, or something else?), and the relevanc…
It's an Ableton ad disguised as a ted talk.
It worked, I was like 'what program is that?' and found Ableton Live. I then said 'What is the free software alternative?' and found LMMS and Ardour. Go with the free software folks.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
i remember when i first heard that watching an Adam Neely video and it really struck me just how powerful and salient a claim it is. everything that we have come to expect of all aspects of existence is only that way because it has been repeated enough to have been made a fact of reality, and then progressively iterated upon over time with each iteration repeated until accepted. so it makes perfect sense within the c…
everything that we have come to expect of all aspects of existence is only that way because it has been repeated enough to have been made a fact of reality What does this even mean? Repeated enough to become a fact of reality? So before it was a "fact of reality" it was being repeated, but.. wasn't yet reality? Until it was repeated enough, and then it became a fact of reality? Who is swayed by this kind of false dee…
Ironic in light of your username, but what the comment you're responding to is talking about is the experience of reality rather than reality itself.
In the context of learning, and of survival, it's counterproductive for the brain to spend time and energy on outliers instead of what is consistent. The brain has a lot of innate capabilities at birth, but whatever reality the person experiences shapes them, whether it be language or culture. And unless the experience is traumatic, isolated instances get subsumed under the volume of everyday experience -- outliers are noise and repetition is signal.
Re: Repetition Makes Music Beautiful [video]
#19An old saying (old to me anyway) regarding improvising in music is that if you make a mistake, just keep repeating the mistake- it will sound deliberate. It’s surprisingly effective.
I've heard it said as: "if you do it once, it's a mistake. If you do it twice, it's jazz."
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#20Prime numbers are important in music. They're actually random. Repetition of this randomness makes music beautiful.
2 and 3 are, but that's about where it ends. Yeah you can do subdivisions of 5 and 7 but it starts to be an academic exercise at that point. So, no, prime numbers don't have any special relationship to music, sorry. Factors of 12 and 16 are actually the most common and useful groupings in most music that people can dance to.