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I don't get what is "stunning" here? Maybe I am missing some context? Someone called Tesla to advise that Tripp was heavily armed and coming at the Gigafactory. Tesla called the police, which then looked for Tripp and found the information to be false. Subsequently, the police tried to identify who placed the initial call, and found that the caller was just "a concerned friend", as they knew Tripp to be unstable and…

This is a reasonable, yet generous reading of the situation. But the situation stinks. Tripp raised what seemed to be sincere concerns, yet was retaliated against by Tesla in an exceedingly heavy-handed manner. Tesla's current claim is that he caused them over 100 million dollars in damage. The trouble in my mind is that Tesla escalated and has continued to escalate an incredibly unpleasant situation involving Tripp.…

> Tripp raised what seemed to be genuine concerns

Were they genuine concerns, though? The overall impression from available sources is that he was overreacting to a situation that, while perhaps unusual, was basically par for the course given that Gigafactory itself is a newly-built facility, and one that's still largely under-construction. Why would you expect things to be 100% perfect and with zero unnecessary waste? Screwups happen all the time, most of the time it's totally normal and not a big concern.

Re: Tesla Tripp Police Report Released

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a reasonable, yet generous reading of the situation. But the situation stinks. Tripp raised what seemed to be sincere concerns, yet was retaliated against by Tesla in an exceedingly heavy-handed manner. Tesla's current claim is that he caused them over 100 million dollars in damage. The trouble in my mind is that Tesla escalated and has continued to escalate an incredibly unpleasant situation involving Tripp.…

> Tripp raised what seemed to be genuine concerns Were they genuine concerns, though? The overall impression from available sources is that he was overreacting to a situation that, while perhaps unusual, was basically par for the course given that Gigafactory itself is a newly-built facility, and one that's still largely under-construction. Why would you expect things to be 100% perfect and with zero unnecessary wast…

Definitely, I agree that they may have been invalid claims and that screwups do happen. What concerns me is that may have been Tripp was truly sincere if not misguided. Tesla's 100 million dollar lawsuit, however, sends a chilling message that if you harm Tesla, they may go after you with incredible force.

Re: Tesla Tripp Police Report Released

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a reasonable, yet generous reading of the situation. But the situation stinks. Tripp raised what seemed to be sincere concerns, yet was retaliated against by Tesla in an exceedingly heavy-handed manner. Tesla's current claim is that he caused them over 100 million dollars in damage. The trouble in my mind is that Tesla escalated and has continued to escalate an incredibly unpleasant situation involving Tripp.…

> Tripp raised what seemed to be genuine concerns Were they genuine concerns, though? The overall impression from available sources is that he was overreacting to a situation that, while perhaps unusual, was basically par for the course given that Gigafactory itself is a newly-built facility, and one that's still largely under-construction. Why would you expect things to be 100% perfect and with zero unnecessary wast…

Moreover, even if they were legitimate, was the press a legitimate place to raise them?

Generally, if you want to whistleblow you should blow the whistle to the regulators. Probably the EPA or a similar agency for any supposed environmental concerns, and the DOT, NHTSA, or a similar agency for any safety concerns related to vehicle's battery packs.

You don't get to leak to the press in violation of your NDA just because you disagree with your employer. Maybe it becomes legitimate if you think that the government and your employer are conspiring to keep issues secret, but I don't see any suggestion of that here.

Re: Tesla Tripp Police Report Released

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It's distressing that every time something negative about Tesla comes out, there is a knee-jerk reaction like "this is merely a ploy to manipulate the stock or destroy the company." Yes, news agencies are often wrong. And yes, there are occasionally manipulators. And although Tesla might be doing great work, it is unquestionable that they may, at times, be causing significant harm to individuals. To dismiss the poten…

> "this is merely a ploy to manipulate the stock or destroy the company." Well, the most favorable thing you could say about $TSLA is that Musk hasn't managed to destroy the company, in spite of his well-known and recurring antics.

Given that they’re currently producing over 90,000 cars per quarter, and that their products have consistently been the benchmark EV for eight years, I think there are plenty of other favourable things you could say about them?

I’m not remotely a fanboy of that company but your comment does seem to be out of whack with the scale of their success despite gargantuan odds.

Re: Tesla Tripp Police Report Released

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post #10

I don't get what is "stunning" here? Maybe I am missing some context? Someone called Tesla to advise that Tripp was heavily armed and coming at the Gigafactory. Tesla called the police, which then looked for Tripp and found the information to be false. Subsequently, the police tried to identify who placed the initial call, and found that the caller was just "a concerned friend", as they knew Tripp to be unstable and…

This is a reasonable, yet generous reading of the situation. But the situation stinks. Tripp raised what seemed to be sincere concerns, yet was retaliated against by Tesla in an exceedingly heavy-handed manner. Tesla's current claim is that he caused them over 100 million dollars in damage. The trouble in my mind is that Tesla escalated and has continued to escalate an incredibly unpleasant situation involving Tripp.…

It feels like there's a common thread between whistleblowers working for Elon Musk and retaliation to their personal lives.

https://old.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/comments/c7pmaf/yes_...

Re: Tesla Tripp Police Report Released

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I don't get what is "stunning" here? Maybe I am missing some context? Someone called Tesla to advise that Tripp was heavily armed and coming at the Gigafactory. Tesla called the police, which then looked for Tripp and found the information to be false. Subsequently, the police tried to identify who placed the initial call, and found that the caller was just "a concerned friend", as they knew Tripp to be unstable and…

Tesla's Head of Investigations told the police they were able to verify that he was armed, but he wasn't armed so looks like someone somewhere is not telling the truth

Re: Tesla Tripp Police Report Released

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Tripp raised what seemed to be genuine concerns Were they genuine concerns, though? The overall impression from available sources is that he was overreacting to a situation that, while perhaps unusual, was basically par for the course given that Gigafactory itself is a newly-built facility, and one that's still largely under-construction. Why would you expect things to be 100% perfect and with zero unnecessary wast…

Definitely, I agree that they may have been invalid claims and that screwups do happen. What concerns me is that may have been Tripp was truly sincere if not misguided. Tesla's 100 million dollar lawsuit, however, sends a chilling message that if you harm Tesla, they may go after you with incredible force.

Chilling? That’s normal corporate behaviour. It would be more weird if they didn’t react.

Re: Tesla Tripp Police Report Released

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"Little birds sing?" WTF is that, we're in the Mafia now? I'd call it self-aggrandizement by (I can't help but imitate the capitalization) GOUTHRO, were it not for the fact that they are apparently using literal mob-style intimidation tactics, now to include this SWATting attempt. Filing a false police report is a crime and so is retaliation against a whistleblower.

Re: Tesla Tripp Police Report Released

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post #6

It's distressing that every time something negative about Tesla comes out, there is a knee-jerk reaction like "this is merely a ploy to manipulate the stock or destroy the company." Yes, news agencies are often wrong. And yes, there are occasionally manipulators. And although Tesla might be doing great work, it is unquestionable that they may, at times, be causing significant harm to individuals. To dismiss the poten…

> "this is merely a ploy to manipulate the stock or destroy the company." Well, the most favorable thing you could say about $TSLA is that Musk hasn't managed to destroy the company, in spite of his well-known and recurring antics.

In "The PayPal Wars" [1] I read about his destructive behaviour as X.com / PayPal CEO. Because he became CEO of the merger of X.com and Confinity (owners of the PayPal brand back in the days). See e.g. [2]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_PayPal_Wars

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confinity

Re: Tesla Tripp Police Report Released

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "this is merely a ploy to manipulate the stock or destroy the company." Well, the most favorable thing you could say about $TSLA is that Musk hasn't managed to destroy the company, in spite of his well-known and recurring antics.

Given that they’re currently producing over 90,000 cars per quarter, and that their products have consistently been the benchmark EV for eight years, I think there are plenty of other favourable things you could say about them? I’m not remotely a fanboy of that company but your comment does seem to be out of whack with the scale of their success despite gargantuan odds.

“They sell more EVs than anyone else, because they are willing to lose more money than anyone else” is perhaps the most charitable thing I could say. I believe they’ve gone through about $20B in cash and lost $6.5B of it. “Not quite the WeWork of cars” is another.
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