dilemma probably is, if you build restrooms, they will do drug in there.
That’s not a dilemma, that’s a solution to two problems.
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#12SF needs the Portland Loo.[1][2] The homeless-resistant public toilet. Not enough privacy for a drug deal. Water faucet on the outside, not the inside. Prison-grade stainless.
[1] https://www.latimes.com/world/la-xpm-2012-aug-29-la-na-08-29... [2] https://portlandloo.com/
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#13You could actually enforce the laws and put people in safe jails with better living conditions than they have now, outside the city limits.
It seems like being more and more lenient is not a solution to a problem getting worse and worse.
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#14Do colder climates have this issue at all?
Please don't.
Edit: the comment was edited. (The original text was "Don't poo-poo this article or the factual fecal findings within".)
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#15I feel like if you can even ask that question then the answer is probably yes. This would make for a rare exception to Betteridge's law though.
Even though this is an exception to Betteridge's law, it seems that tome's law still applies!
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#16It seems very wrong to describe it in those terms. I mean, what's next, an article in January about how DC has a "frozen bodies on the street" problem?
It's a homeless crisis.
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#17dilemma probably is, if you build restrooms, they will do drug in there.
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#18dilemma probably is, if you build restrooms, they will do drug in there.
Give them a better place to do drugs; a place where they get free needles and can throw away the old ones properly (so they won't leave them lying about).
Im just curious if there are any examples of this kind of attitude actually working instead of just attracting more homeless people. So far it seems like San Francisco's policy of not enforcing basic quality of life laws has not made homeless people say "oh gee they sure are nice not to arrest me for dealing drugs and smashing car windows. To thank them I will not poop in the street."
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is that worse than them shooting up in the middle of the street?
that can be discovered and rescued, but not if they just shoot in a cubicle that no one even knows they are there I guess. That's the only(?) explanation on why SF closed up all public restrooms on Market street
I've seen restrooms in businesses that are installing blacklights instead of standard fluorescent/LEDs to deter people from using drugs in them - because you can't see your veins under a black light.
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#20I wonder how much this has to do with an increase in people knowing that there exists a system to complain about poop, versus the actual increase of poop itself.
The only place I’ve ever seen human feces on a public street is in SF and I’ve been to every major US city.