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> JMAP is therefore not introducing any new measures to address end-to-end encryption. It seems like a wasted opportunity to not make E2EE a primary focus of a new email standard. Hopefully there will be standard extensions down the road to add this if JMAP takes off.
How do various mail clients talk to their respective backends? I.e. what does iOS Mail use to talk to iCloud? The GMail iOS app speaks a bespoke binary protocol to Google's servers, not IMAP.
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Isn't email mostly consolidated to a handful of providers with published APIs? (Office365, Google, Yahoo) I'd be curious to see the market share of just those 3 combined. And they don't have any incentive to move to this.
Imagine if some company offered a $5/month service that connects to o365/gmail/yahoo via imap, and then presents your email via jmap. After a few years of that company making money, I could see at least one of the big 3 offering a $1/month option to cut out the middleman. And if more of them start offering the same, then it's only a matter of time before one of them offers up jmap for free. Unlikely, but seems plausi…
Four months ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20477212
Six months ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19839104
Ten months ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18996200 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18766709
Also, 2017: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14283659
2015: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10781894
2014: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8785894 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7141152
> JMAP is therefore not introducing any new measures to address end-to-end encryption. It seems like a wasted opportunity to not make E2EE a primary focus of a new email standard. Hopefully there will be standard extensions down the road to add this if JMAP takes off.
I've been reading about this, and there seems to be a lot of debate still on implementing E2EE via the email providers. From what I have gathered most email providers use TLS and encrypt data on disk at rest, but they feel like its pointless to implement E2EE, because by default as 99% of incoming emails are all unencrypted, and 99% of emails need to leave your email unencrypted(otherwise the receiving email party wo…
Brilliant stuff, but kind of sad that this hasn't caught on already. I realize that standardization has only firmed up recently, but other standards like HTTP and TLS see preview releases supported in major products well before they are finalized. Who uses JMAP besides FastMail?
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Isn't email mostly consolidated to a handful of providers with published APIs? (Office365, Google, Yahoo) I'd be curious to see the market share of just those 3 combined. And they don't have any incentive to move to this.
Imagine if some company offered a $5/month service that connects to o365/gmail/yahoo via imap, and then presents your email via jmap. After a few years of that company making money, I could see at least one of the big 3 offering a $1/month option to cut out the middleman. And if more of them start offering the same, then it's only a matter of time before one of them offers up jmap for free. Unlikely, but seems plausi…
> JMAP is therefore not introducing any new measures to address end-to-end encryption. It seems like a wasted opportunity to not make E2EE a primary focus of a new email standard. Hopefully there will be standard extensions down the road to add this if JMAP takes off.
> JMAP is therefore not introducing any new measures to address end-to-end encryption. It seems like a wasted opportunity to not make E2EE a primary focus of a new email standard. Hopefully there will be standard extensions down the road to add this if JMAP takes off.
How would spam detection work?
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Imagine if some company offered a $5/month service that connects to o365/gmail/yahoo via imap, and then presents your email via jmap. After a few years of that company making money, I could see at least one of the big 3 offering a $1/month option to cut out the middleman. And if more of them start offering the same, then it's only a matter of time before one of them offers up jmap for free. Unlikely, but seems plausi…
That sounds a lot like Fastmail to me!