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Disney+ Might Have a Notable Hacker Problem

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Re: Disney+ Might Have a Notable Hacker Problem

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With 10m moms and dads signing up, I'm going to guess this is largely due to password reuse from prior hacks. Christmas123.

Bingo. People using the same login on multiple sites.

The sellers get Massive email: password lists which are known combo lists. These are usually from hacked sites that have been SQL injected.

People probably all have giant lists of Netflix, Hulu Etc. accounts and then just recheck them on Disney+

Then they'll use a checker app which just mass checks the sites. I imagine Disney don't have a catchpa setup or requiring it after a large amount of failed logins.

There's no point IP limiting logins as most guys will be using massive botnet proxies services that give you a zillion IP's.

Re: Disney+ Might Have a Notable Hacker Problem

#12

With 10m moms and dads signing up, I'm going to guess this is largely due to password reuse from prior hacks. Christmas123.

It does seem like a particularly soft target in that regard.

We really need a 2FA solution that's friendly enough for normal people to use. Like, yesterday.

Re: Disney+ Might Have a Notable Hacker Problem

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post #7

Does anyone else still torrent? I rarely watch a tv show or a movie, but when I do I just torrent it. I've been doing this since Limewire (which was a lot of really shitty porn at the time). Showed my boys Princess Mononoke the other day - will show them the Mandalorian tonight, a buddy told me its pretty good

Does anyone still shoplift? /s

Yes, people still steal. Torrenting is usually more convenient, but for media that actually cost a ton of money to produce, I still feel iffy about stealing it. I would never recommend it to anyone when buying and paying for media is still an option.

Even if something like Ghibli movies might not conveniently be available for on-demand streaming, I still think everyone is under the moral obligation to plan ahead and buy it on a more traditional format rather than to resort to piracy. It is your own short-sightedness if you can't anticipate the need beforehand and order it in time.

If for some reason media can't be bought new anymore and your money isn't good anywhere, then by all means pirate it. I consider that it has at that point entered a public domain of sorts.

Re: Disney+ Might Have a Notable Hacker Problem

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post #7

Does anyone else still torrent? I rarely watch a tv show or a movie, but when I do I just torrent it. I've been doing this since Limewire (which was a lot of really shitty porn at the time). Showed my boys Princess Mononoke the other day - will show them the Mandalorian tonight, a buddy told me its pretty good

Does anyone still shoplift? /s Yes, people still steal. Torrenting is usually more convenient, but for media that actually cost a ton of money to produce, I still feel iffy about stealing it. I would never recommend it to anyone when buying and paying for media is still an option. Even if something like Ghibli movies might not conveniently be available for on-demand streaming, I still think everyone is under the mora…

Any particular reason that you're interchanging two words that are not interchangeable?

Re: Disney+ Might Have a Notable Hacker Problem

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post #7

Does anyone else still torrent? I rarely watch a tv show or a movie, but when I do I just torrent it. I've been doing this since Limewire (which was a lot of really shitty porn at the time). Showed my boys Princess Mononoke the other day - will show them the Mandalorian tonight, a buddy told me its pretty good

Does anyone still shoplift? /s Yes, people still steal. Torrenting is usually more convenient, but for media that actually cost a ton of money to produce, I still feel iffy about stealing it. I would never recommend it to anyone when buying and paying for media is still an option. Even if something like Ghibli movies might not conveniently be available for on-demand streaming, I still think everyone is under the mora…

Piracy isn't stealing. Many people have been over this. You've been brainwashed if you think it's stealing.

It's still against the law in many places, but to call it stealing is just spreading misinformation and propaganda.

Re: Disney+ Might Have a Notable Hacker Problem

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post #9
post #7

Does anyone else still torrent? I rarely watch a tv show or a movie, but when I do I just torrent it. I've been doing this since Limewire (which was a lot of really shitty porn at the time). Showed my boys Princess Mononoke the other day - will show them the Mandalorian tonight, a buddy told me its pretty good

I'm sure some people do. I prefer to pay for things though.

It’s not a matter of paying for stuff, at least not in Europe. I have 3 different streaming subscriptions (still cheaper than 8 channels of flow tv with its 50% commercials), and I absolutely hate watching a tv show, only to find out the European version of the streaming service doesn’t have the last 4 seasons yet, despite the show being over and the finale having “aired” in the US.

In cases like that I turn to torrents and download whatever seasons I’m missing, watch them and delete them again. I still keep my streaming subscriptions though.

It has gotten better, and the problem is mostly confined to cross studio/service shows, or services not available in Europe.

HBO Nordic hasn’t even announced an air date for Mr. Robot season 4 yet, which I guess is great as I can only dodge spoilers for so long, so when it eventually hits I’ll know the ending.

Even if the show was available on a European streaming service, I’d probably stream it anyway. There’s a limit to how many streaming services I care to have, and torrenting is so much easier than trying to navigate the dark patterns most streaming services put around their unsubscribe pages.

I’m also too lazy to subscribe/unsubscribe multiple times per year to multiple services.

Perhaps a “pay per view” model that bills you X per show watched, up to a maximum equal to the monthly subscription fee. That way I could have multiple subscriptions and only pay subscription fees to the services I actually use, and once I stopped watching them I’d automatically be unsubscribed.

Of course that will never happen while there are a million services.

Re: Disney+ Might Have a Notable Hacker Problem

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does anyone still shoplift? /s Yes, people still steal. Torrenting is usually more convenient, but for media that actually cost a ton of money to produce, I still feel iffy about stealing it. I would never recommend it to anyone when buying and paying for media is still an option. Even if something like Ghibli movies might not conveniently be available for on-demand streaming, I still think everyone is under the mora…

Piracy isn't stealing. Many people have been over this. You've been brainwashed if you think it's stealing. It's still against the law in many places, but to call it stealing is just spreading misinformation and propaganda.

Hmm - is there a good summary of this argument I could read? I torrented many years ago and it always felt like stealing and still does. Seems more or less equivalent to shoplifting to me from a moral standpoint, would be curious to read into this!

(I'm assuming this is not the "oh I actually pay and I just want to watch it on an unsupported device" argument)

Re: Disney+ Might Have a Notable Hacker Problem

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Piracy isn't stealing. Many people have been over this. You've been brainwashed if you think it's stealing. It's still against the law in many places, but to call it stealing is just spreading misinformation and propaganda.

Hmm - is there a good summary of this argument I could read? I torrented many years ago and it always felt like stealing and still does. Seems more or less equivalent to shoplifting to me from a moral standpoint, would be curious to read into this! (I'm assuming this is not the "oh I actually pay and I just want to watch it on an unsupported device" argument)

If I shoplift a bag of Doritos, the shop has one fewer bag of Doritos.

If I pirate a show, it doesn't disappear from Disney's hard drives.

Re: Disney+ Might Have a Notable Hacker Problem

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does anyone still shoplift? /s Yes, people still steal. Torrenting is usually more convenient, but for media that actually cost a ton of money to produce, I still feel iffy about stealing it. I would never recommend it to anyone when buying and paying for media is still an option. Even if something like Ghibli movies might not conveniently be available for on-demand streaming, I still think everyone is under the mora…

Piracy isn't stealing. Many people have been over this. You've been brainwashed if you think it's stealing. It's still against the law in many places, but to call it stealing is just spreading misinformation and propaganda.

I think "stealing" is the semantically/technically incorrect term that's used as a sort of justification for not compensating the creator of a work, who paid to create that work, even though that work is considered valuable to the person using/watching it.

Re: Disney+ Might Have a Notable Hacker Problem

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm - is there a good summary of this argument I could read? I torrented many years ago and it always felt like stealing and still does. Seems more or less equivalent to shoplifting to me from a moral standpoint, would be curious to read into this! (I'm assuming this is not the "oh I actually pay and I just want to watch it on an unsupported device" argument)

If I shoplift a bag of Doritos, the shop has one fewer bag of Doritos. If I pirate a show, it doesn't disappear from Disney's hard drives.

People use "steal" like that all the time. "You stole my idea." "He stole my look!" "She stole my song." Etc... So I don't really think that's a very good argument.
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