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Breach affecting 1M was caught only after hacker maxed out target’s storage

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Re: Breach affecting 1M was caught only after hacker maxed out target’s storage

#11

Given the fair assumption that any piece of data you give to a third party system that has access to the internet will eventually be breached, I feel like we need an entirely new system for data sharing. The problem with most of these hacks isn't usually so much that the hacked system itself has lots of valuable data, but that the data from the hacked system can be used to hack into other systems that do have valuabl…

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Re: Breach affecting 1M was caught only after hacker maxed out target’s storage

#12

plaintext passwords in 2019 .. it hurts to read articles like these.

These are often found in log files when people get a bit to log happy. I've seen many smart developers accidentally log a request in an API that also happens to show the login credentials.

This is true, but the way the article is worded it makes it very much sound like the passwords were being stored cleartext.

Re: Breach affecting 1M was caught only after hacker maxed out target’s storage

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These are often found in log files when people get a bit to log happy. I've seen many smart developers accidentally log a request in an API that also happens to show the login credentials.

Even Google fell for that one recently.

Didn't Facebook fell for it too?

Re: Breach affecting 1M was caught only after hacker maxed out target’s storage

#15

plaintext passwords in 2019 .. it hurts to read articles like these.

These are often found in log files when people get a bit to log happy. I've seen many smart developers accidentally log a request in an API that also happens to show the login credentials.

this is super common in my experience, along with checking creds into the repo

Re: Breach affecting 1M was caught only after hacker maxed out target’s storage

#17

Given the fair assumption that any piece of data you give to a third party system that has access to the internet will eventually be breached, I feel like we need an entirely new system for data sharing. The problem with most of these hacks isn't usually so much that the hacked system itself has lots of valuable data, but that the data from the hacked system can be used to hack into other systems that do have valuabl…

Absolutely! The same way we say you have to hash and salt passwords so they're not useful for cross-site breaches, it's even more important for any other piece of information that is used to verify identity. Especially since these other pieces of info aren't easily changed and can't be different on different sites. Or, facts about a person shouldn't be considered secret for the purpose of authentication, but that's hard when people have trouble with being asked to keep track of any new secret pieces of information they are given.

Re: Breach affecting 1M was caught only after hacker maxed out target’s storage

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post #13

>full payment card numbers storing these in plain text violates PCI-DSS

The article doesn't say that they were stored in plaintext. Still a PCI violation though!

From the FTC complaint:

"... stored consumers’ personal information, including consumers’ SSNs, payment card information (including full or partial credit card and debit card numbers, CVVs, and expiration dates), bank account information (including account and routing numbers), and authentication credentials such as user IDs and passwords, in clear, readable text on InfoTrax’s network."

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