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#11
I don't know if I understood it right, but BATs are only given when users see the ads, right?

If this is the case, it seems that Brave fosters the use of ads, not reduce it.

Is my understanding right?

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#12
I am all for fighting capitalism, but I wont tolerate any form of ads. Ads are a threat for free thinking. They are pollution, poison, for the mind. I dont want to face any form of manipulation.

Beside, Brave is chromium based. If you want to fight the chrome monopoly, go somewhere else.

I could be fine with a fork of Firefox with a preinstall uBlockOrigin, Privacy Possum, facebook container, etc.

Re: Brave launches 1.0

#13
I've been using Brave rewards, both as a user and a content maker. It's really great, and I feel this may be a reasonable alternative to the invasive trackers+ads we have today.

For the uninitiated, Brave lets users opt-in to Brave rewards:

- You set your browser to reward content creators with Basic Attention Token (BAT). You set a budget (e.g. 10 BAT/month), and Brave distributes it the sites you use most, e.g. if you watch a particular YouTube channel 30% of your browsing time, it will send 30% of 10 BAT each month to that content creator.

- As a user, you can get paid in BAT. You tell Brave if you're willing to see ads, and how often. If so, you get paid in BAT, which you can then distribute to content creators. Brave ads are different: rather than intrusive in-page ads, Brave ads show up as a notification in your operating system outside of the page. This prevents slow downs of the page, keeping your browsing focused, while still allowing support of content creators. And of course, Brave ads are optional and opt-in.

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#14
Having switched recently from Firefox to Brave, I must say it's a pretty nice browser but with some unwanted quirks.

1) It tries to also be a bit-torrent client but the downoad doesn't even survive a tab closing. Pretty frustrating to lose a big long download that way. 2) new tabs have a weird eye-bleeding background and there's no way to change it

Re: Brave launches 1.0

#15
edit2: Nevermind all this, Brave did in fact implement protected content this earlier this year

https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/413

I still can't use brave to watch netflix on Linux. Its a great product and I love shifting the incentive of advertising away from intrusive data harvesting, but treating Linux like its a second class citizen means I won't use your product. Whats worse is that Firefox is 100% open source and Chromium is 100% open source and they both manage to get this working out of the box. There is no reason for Brave to not have working Netflix

edit: Also I know the library that decodes the DRM is proprietary, my point is the integration with it is open and available, no reason it can't be duplicated.

Re: Brave launches 1.0

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post #11

I don't know if I understood it right, but BATs are only given when users see the ads, right? If this is the case, it seems that Brave fosters the use of ads, not reduce it. Is my understanding right?

Did Brave ever claim to reduce the use of ads? As I understand, they want to shift the revenue model and put control back in hands of users. You can use their browser and ignore ads (also not receive Bats) or you can see ads and receive compensation for it.

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#17
I tried out Brave ~3 years ago when it was still Electron-based, and it was unfortunately too laggy to be a daily driver. Then I tried it out again ~6 months ago after they'd switched it to being a Chromium fork. The speed was much-improved, but it suddenly started spamming me with push notifications about various features, Brave rewards, etc. I felt like I was blocking web ads just to get native ads instead. You can turn them off deep in the settings, but I got sketched out and stopped using it.

I think Brave's payment model concept is a very interesting idea for freeing the open web from the need for advertising, but I haven't been impressed with the way the project has been executed so far.

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post #9

Brendan Eich named his browser 'brave' because he thinks that he is "brave" for attacking a minority group. When I was young, in a trashy town, big groups of guys would get together and go 'fag-bashing', which is when a bunch of grown adults beat someone up because they suspect he's gay. Often, the target is a little kid. Since a lot of cops were former fag-bashers, there wasn't much to do about it. Fag bashing stopp…

I'm sorry- I'm extremely confused about what this has to do with this web browser.

I figured it out. This guy is a SJW who is offended that Brendan Eich donated $1000 to Prop 8 in California.

Re: Brave launches 1.0

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post #11

I don't know if I understood it right, but BATs are only given when users see the ads, right? If this is the case, it seems that Brave fosters the use of ads, not reduce it. Is my understanding right?

It blocks the on-page ads, but, if you opt-in will show you notification ads (non-invasive notifications), and will pay you for them.
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