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Facebook head of news cofounded site critical of Elizabeth Warren

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Re: Facebook head of news cofounded site critical of Elizabeth Warren

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Politics is full of bad actors, I do not think Warren is one of those people. You can disagree with her, sure, but she just wants to create fairness for all in my opinion. Facebook is the opposite of this, with their closed systems, back door dealings and often shady business practices it makes perfect sense that they are opposed to her.

You don't think the whole debacle about claiming to be native american has hurt her credibility somewhat?

Re: Facebook head of news cofounded site critical of Elizabeth Warren

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Breitbart being a trusted Facebook news source was kind of jaw dropping.

What's your take on CNN and MSNBC? Mother Jones? The Daily Kos? HuffPo? etc.

Are any of those confirmed to be included? AFAIK none of those are.

Re: Facebook head of news cofounded site critical of Elizabeth Warren

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post #5

Politics is full of bad actors, I do not think Warren is one of those people. You can disagree with her, sure, but she just wants to create fairness for all in my opinion. Facebook is the opposite of this, with their closed systems, back door dealings and often shady business practices it makes perfect sense that they are opposed to her.

Creating fairness for all is sufficiently vague as to justify almost anything. Politicians, or those with power in general, should not be evaluated positively based on their well meaning platitudes, even if they are sincerely held. Creating fairness for all, if implemented poorly, can and has led to mass murder, genocide, etc. I'm not suggesting Warren would lead to that, or implying it, simply saying that wanting to 'do more good' isn't a sufficient defense.

Re: Facebook head of news cofounded site critical of Elizabeth Warren

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post #11
post #5

Politics is full of bad actors, I do not think Warren is one of those people. You can disagree with her, sure, but she just wants to create fairness for all in my opinion. Facebook is the opposite of this, with their closed systems, back door dealings and often shady business practices it makes perfect sense that they are opposed to her.

You don't think the whole debacle about claiming to be native american has hurt her credibility somewhat?

Do I think her college admissions in 1975 affect her credibility as a senator in 2020? Not particularly, especially compared to her actual track record.

(if we can find a way to forgive and forget Judge Boof's college "hijinks" I think we can find a way to forgive this.)

Re: Facebook head of news cofounded site critical of Elizabeth Warren

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I feel like this is grasping at straws. Facebook’s head of news co-founded a site in 2015 that promotes school choice, something supported by a majority of people and a super majority of people of color: https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/11/school-choice-strong-....

The articles posted on this site were critical of Warren because of Warren’s opposition to school choice, but has also criticized the other Democratic candidates for taking the same position: https://www.the74million.org/article/stewart-the-democratic-....

The attempt to make it seem like the criticism of Warren on this site has anything to do with Facebook is pretty weak. The site was started long before Warren said anything critical about Facebook. The site also has a good faith basis for being critical of Warren in this front. Warren’s opposition to school choice highlights a distressing fissure within the Democratic Party: https://www.gse.harvard.edu/news/19/08/ednext-poll-democrats...

> African American Democrats support targeted school vouchers, universal vouchers, and charter schools at 70%, 60%, and 55%, respectively. Among Hispanic Democrats, support for the three policies is at 67%, 60%, and 47%. On the other hand, just 40% of non-Hispanic White Democrats support targeted vouchers, 46% support universal vouchers, and 33% support charter schools.

The site is addressing a real debate within the Democratic Party, consistent with its founding principles, not using some contrived pretext to attack Warren for her comments about Facebook.

Re: Facebook head of news cofounded site critical of Elizabeth Warren

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post #5

Politics is full of bad actors, I do not think Warren is one of those people. You can disagree with her, sure, but she just wants to create fairness for all in my opinion. Facebook is the opposite of this, with their closed systems, back door dealings and often shady business practices it makes perfect sense that they are opposed to her.

Saying that candidate A retains quality X is as good as the tests administored to measure and quantify the presence of said quantity.

In politics, there exists a game with real stakes to LOOK a certain way regardless of the truth.

Therefore, I find that any opinion on political matters made as if it were a matter of fact has a high probability of being either naive or a component of a political campaign to influence public opinion on said candidate.

So I ask this question of you, what are the tests administered to verify you claim of Warren and what is your profession? Are you an expert in policy?

Re: Facebook head of news cofounded site critical of Elizabeth Warren

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post #11
post #5

Politics is full of bad actors, I do not think Warren is one of those people. You can disagree with her, sure, but she just wants to create fairness for all in my opinion. Facebook is the opposite of this, with their closed systems, back door dealings and often shady business practices it makes perfect sense that they are opposed to her.

You don't think the whole debacle about claiming to be native american has hurt her credibility somewhat?

I'll bite even though I'm a bit uninformed here:

I think it's plausible to be told something about your heritage and not question it, especially if it's something spanning multiple generations where the paperwork validating the claim is either nonexistent or otherwise hard to reach. At varying points I've been told by relatives that I'm part Scottish, and told by others that I'm not, and I don't really have a straightforward way of validating this aside from engaging in some intensive research.

I can reasonably extend the benefit of the doubt to Elizabeth Warren that she didn't know if she was actually some fraction Native American or not until the DNA test.

Re: Facebook head of news cofounded site critical of Elizabeth Warren

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post #15

I feel like this is grasping at straws. Facebook’s head of news co-founded a site in 2015 that promotes school choice, something supported by a majority of people and a super majority of people of color: https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/11/school-choice-strong-... . The articles posted on this site were critical of Warren because of Warren’s opposition to school choice, but has also criticized the other Democratic…

Ah yes, "school choice", a nice rebranding effort for privatizing another industry so Betsy Devos and other aspiring oligarchs can destroy a public good for their profit.

Re: Facebook head of news cofounded site critical of Elizabeth Warren

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post #16
post #5

Politics is full of bad actors, I do not think Warren is one of those people. You can disagree with her, sure, but she just wants to create fairness for all in my opinion. Facebook is the opposite of this, with their closed systems, back door dealings and often shady business practices it makes perfect sense that they are opposed to her.

Saying that candidate A retains quality X is as good as the tests administored to measure and quantify the presence of said quantity. In politics, there exists a game with real stakes to LOOK a certain way regardless of the truth. Therefore, I find that any opinion on political matters made as if it were a matter of fact has a high probability of being either naive or a component of a political campaign to influence…

Mods - can we do something about the obvious political astroturfing? Every comment critical of GP here is dimming due to vapid down votes and it is discouraging and disappointing to see.

Re: Facebook head of news cofounded site critical of Elizabeth Warren

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Breitbart being a trusted Facebook news source was kind of jaw dropping.

What's your take on CNN and MSNBC? Mother Jones? The Daily Kos? HuffPo? etc.

Breitbart is an explicitly white nationalist publication. There is no comparison with standard news.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2019/11/12/stephen-mille...

Edit:

Good lord people. SPLC has a cache of emails from Stephen Miller written to various people at Breitbart about reporting their stories with explicit white nationalist ideology. You don't have to like SPLC to believe the leaked emails any more than you had to like Wikileaks to believe the leaked DNC emails.

Here's another source if you don't want to give them clicks: https://www.thedailybeast.com/stephen-miller-pushed-racist-s...

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