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How to Set Your Google Data to Self-Destruct

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Re: How to Set Your Google Data to Self-Destruct

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post #9

Only flaw I see with this and stuff like FB saying they "deleted" your account is: "It's deleted" is (or could be) another term for "You can't see it anymore, but it's there somewhere" Haven't gone into ToS, but regardless, there's no way we can determine if it's really gone.

I think I had read that Amazon TOS said employees wouldn't have access to your data if you closed your account. I'm sure they have some right to make temporary (we hope) backups but I thought it was a fair clause.

Re: How to Set Your Google Data to Self-Destruct

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post #9

Only flaw I see with this and stuff like FB saying they "deleted" your account is: "It's deleted" is (or could be) another term for "You can't see it anymore, but it's there somewhere" Haven't gone into ToS, but regardless, there's no way we can determine if it's really gone.

I think I had read that Amazon TOS said employees wouldn't have access to your data if you closed your account. I'm sure they have some right to make temporary (we hope) backups but I thought it was a fair clause.

Regardless of company, I don't want them to keep any "backups" of what I delete.

In my view, if I say I want to "delete" my account, I don't want a single trace of my existence on that platform from then on. No emails, no backups, nothing.

Re: How to Set Your Google Data to Self-Destruct

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think I had read that Amazon TOS said employees wouldn't have access to your data if you closed your account. I'm sure they have some right to make temporary (we hope) backups but I thought it was a fair clause.

Regardless of company, I don't want them to keep any "backups" of what I delete. In my view, if I say I want to "delete" my account, I don't want a single trace of my existence on that platform from then on. No emails, no backups, nothing.

The only way in my mind to grant your wish would be if you owned the storage of your credentials. Otherwise you're just moving trust to another entity. I'm not an expert.

Either way that clause showed a hint accountability from Amazon that I haven't seen too often. Not that I've spent much time comparing ToS either.

Re: How to Set Your Google Data to Self-Destruct

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post #7

> For those who don’t want Google to create a record of their location history at all, there’s a switch for that. On the My Activity page, click Activity controls and scroll to Location history and turn the switch to the off position. Yes, that's what I do. But then Google Maps on the phone nags you constantly that it should be on. Removing the nagging would be an immense improvement and proof of commitment to privac…

Lucky! I get some kind of fleeting toast message (sub-quarter of a second) about some kind of permission missing, before the app closes itself entirely.

Re: How to Set Your Google Data to Self-Destruct

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think I had read that Amazon TOS said employees wouldn't have access to your data if you closed your account. I'm sure they have some right to make temporary (we hope) backups but I thought it was a fair clause.

Regardless of company, I don't want them to keep any "backups" of what I delete. In my view, if I say I want to "delete" my account, I don't want a single trace of my existence on that platform from then on. No emails, no backups, nothing.

By definition, any really effective backup (off site, offline) can't simply be modified instantly when you click a button in a web UI. The reason it takes months for backups to clear out your deleted data is that's how long it takes for the entire backup to be discarded and replaced by a new backup that reflects your deletions.

While the data is likely inaccessible forever in this case, the reason the company can't just say it's been deleted is if they actually do need to restore one of these backups, the data you deleted will come back.

Re: How to Set Your Google Data to Self-Destruct

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post #7

> For those who don’t want Google to create a record of their location history at all, there’s a switch for that. On the My Activity page, click Activity controls and scroll to Location history and turn the switch to the off position. Yes, that's what I do. But then Google Maps on the phone nags you constantly that it should be on. Removing the nagging would be an immense improvement and proof of commitment to privac…

Be very careful about combining Inactive Account Manager with telling Google not to store activity data. I started getting countdown to deletion warnings telling me I needed to log in to show I wasn't inactive, but no matter how often I did it was ignored completely until I turned on activity tracking. I'm not sure if this is a rare bug or working as intended, but it could go badly. In the end I turned off Inactive account management and activity tracking, but it was a bit disturbing.

Re: How to Set Your Google Data to Self-Destruct

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A few months ago someone posted a tool that cleared this and old tweets as well, but I can’t remember the name.

I wish there was a tool that regularly nuked my Facebook history as well, from comments in random groups to likes across the site. I have no use for things I commented 10 years ago.

Re: How to Set Your Google Data to Self-Destruct

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Usually, as with turning off location history, I feel this only hurts the user, as I don't believe any relevant parties won't have access to the deleted entries if the need arises.

The only person who doesn't have access to that data will be the subject the data originated from.

Re: How to Set Your Google Data to Self-Destruct

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My concern about these deletion request is that you are totally at the will of the platforms, that they actually will delete your data. This already imply trust towards them. And if you have trust they handling data with responsibility, why would you need to ask for delete?
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