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Uber facing ban in Geneva

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Re: Uber facing ban in Geneva

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Then who would drive for them but true gigsters? People only looking for sidejobs.

That’s precisely the point. If letting people drive full time is creating all if this ethical dilemma and regulatory pressure, cut it out of the equation. It might even drive prices up.

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Re: Uber facing ban in Geneva

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Then who would drive for them but true gigsters? People only looking for sidejobs.

That’s precisely the point. If letting people drive full time is creating all if this ethical dilemma and regulatory pressure, cut it out of the equation. It might even drive prices up.

That seems to work, until Lyft and the gang show up -- when drivers have several hours-limited jobs but they're in the same condition anyway. Better to just tax the companies doing this.

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Uber is the bomb. Want to work? Press a button. Don't want to work? Press a button. Take a break whenever you want for as long as you want. Come back to work as long as you want whenever you want. No timesheets no cubicle no office politics no douchebag supervisor. What other job can you do this?

Sure you're probably not going to pull down enough off Uber alone to live in an upper middle class suburb with 5 kids a wife,two cars,a picket fence a health care plan and a pension. Its for extra pocket money, they never portrayed it as anything more.

Now we're going to flush this new paradigm down the drain for everybody because of pols in the pockets of taxi companies and their entitled pawns who think they should be earning a full middle class salary with benefits at anything they choose to do regardless of reality. This is why we can't have good things.

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I'm quite surprised that Uber was able to even have any sort of hold in Geneva. I visited my Aunt in Geneva for a few weeks in 2006 and she lived 5-10 miles from the city center and even that far out there was a bus that came by every 9 minutes. The only time we drove was when we went into France. From my short visit I also got the impression that Switzerland is very serious about their taxes. We went grocery shopping across the border in France for the lower prices/taxes and every time we crossed back into Switzerland we got searched by border crossing security to ensure we weren't bringing too many goods across the border based on the number of occupants in the vehicle.

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I'm quite surprised that Uber was able to even have any sort of hold in Geneva. I visited my Aunt in Geneva for a few weeks in 2006 and she lived 5-10 miles from the city center and even that far out there was a bus that came by every 9 minutes. The only time we drove was when we went into France. From my short visit I also got the impression that Switzerland is very serious about their taxes. We went grocery shoppin…

Can you please explain a bit more what the border looked like? I was under the impression that there was no border within the Schengen area.

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What if Uber capped driver hours to something low like 2-3 per day to eliminate co-dependence?

This makes absolutely no difference. Rules for self-employment are much stricter: https://www.kmu.admin.ch/kmu/en/home/concrete-know-how/setti...

Even if you hire a cleaner for a few hours a week, it’s still considered employment: https://lenews.ch/2016/08/17/7-step-guide-to-hiring-a-cleane...

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I'm quite surprised that Uber was able to even have any sort of hold in Geneva. I visited my Aunt in Geneva for a few weeks in 2006 and she lived 5-10 miles from the city center and even that far out there was a bus that came by every 9 minutes. The only time we drove was when we went into France. From my short visit I also got the impression that Switzerland is very serious about their taxes. We went grocery shoppin…

Can you please explain a bit more what the border looked like? I was under the impression that there was no border within the Schengen area.

It's been over a decade and I didn't drive while we were there but I remember it looking a lot like a tollbooth in the US, but one with military/police looking people that would randomly, or not so randomly, select people to pull off to the side so that they could search your vehicle. At least one time when we crossed into France to go grocery shopping we were searched and had to show our passports and they looked through our groceries and asked to see the receipt.

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Can you please explain a bit more what the border looked like? I was under the impression that there was no border within the Schengen area.

It's been over a decade and I didn't drive while we were there but I remember it looking a lot like a tollbooth in the US, but one with military/police looking people that would randomly, or not so randomly, select people to pull off to the side so that they could search your vehicle. At least one time when we crossed into France to go grocery shopping we were searched and had to show our passports and they looked th…

I'm no expert on the EU or Schengen Area, but the Wikipedia page says that "Switzerland was allowed to participate in the same manner in 2008" so it's certainly possible that the situation is completely different now.

Re: Uber facing ban in Geneva

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I'm quite surprised that Uber was able to even have any sort of hold in Geneva. I visited my Aunt in Geneva for a few weeks in 2006 and she lived 5-10 miles from the city center and even that far out there was a bus that came by every 9 minutes. The only time we drove was when we went into France. From my short visit I also got the impression that Switzerland is very serious about their taxes. We went grocery shoppin…

Can you please explain a bit more what the border looked like? I was under the impression that there was no border within the Schengen area.

There are still occasional checks around the Geneva / France border to check your purchases. They just seem random. Sometimes they are there, sometimes they aren't. Locals tell me they are out in weekends when people shop.

There are also city buses that cross the border without stopping unless they randomly get stopped. The trains from France come into a particular platform at Cornavin train station where they can see people exit and talk to anyone carrying a lot of stuff.

The rules and process is confusing to a non-local like me but pretty low hassle in the end.

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