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Acetaminophen exposure in pregnancy linked to higher risk of ADHD, autism: study

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Re: Acetaminophen exposure in pregnancy linked to higher risk of ADHD, autism: study

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Interesting and I wonder if it has to do with that finding that Tylenol is a generalized emotion suppressant [1]. [1] https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/12/04/5677620...

Maybe not that specifically, but there is growing evidence that acetaminophen has pretty serious effects on adult brain function.

Re: Acetaminophen exposure in pregnancy linked to higher risk of ADHD, autism: study

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ibuprofen (and all NSAIDs) are also unsafe during pregnancy. It doesn't seem like there's anything safe to take.

source/explanation?

Right here from the CDC[1]. My wife gave birth last month and was not allowed to take ibuprofen, she gets headaches and it was difficult for her. Other medicine does not work as well for her.

[1] https://www.cdc.gov/pregnancy/meds/treatingfortwo/features/p...

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[1] argues that ASD lacks validity – in other words, "ASD" is not something which actually exists in nature, it is simply a largely arbitrary grouping of symptoms, and those symptoms have a diverse array of unrelated causes. Given this, [1] argues that the use of the ASD diagnosis as a basis for research should be abandoned. Instead, researchers should look for the causes and associations of each individual symptom included in the ASD diagnostic criteria, irrespective of whether the individuals having that symptom have been diagnosed with ASD or not, and irrespective of whether they meet the overall diagnostic criteria for ASD or not. If [1] is right that the validity of ASD is dubious, then any research based on the diagnosis of ASD is also dubious, this study included.

[1] https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40489-016-0085-x

Re: Acetaminophen exposure in pregnancy linked to higher risk of ADHD, autism: study

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My guess would be that ADHD diagnoses in children would be associated with (legal) drug-seeking behavior in parents. Serious classic autism, on the other hand, is not affected by any sort of physician-seeking behavior.

It may already be controlled for, but if not, the increased Acetaminophen intake could be from narcotic painkillers, which are often combined with Acetaminophen in prescription preparations to help prevent abuse. The same people seeking and using those around birth may later seek to get an ADHD diagnosis for a child for access to amphetamines, as narcotics use and amphetamine use are highly correlated together.

Re: Acetaminophen exposure in pregnancy linked to higher risk of ADHD, autism: study

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ibuprofen (and all NSAIDs) are also unsafe during pregnancy. It doesn't seem like there's anything safe to take.

source/explanation?

It is understandably considered unethical to carry out drug safety research on pregnant mothers due to the risk to the child, so almost all medicines are considered unsafe as there is no ethical way to prove otherwise.

Re: Acetaminophen exposure in pregnancy linked to higher risk of ADHD, autism: study

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My guess would be that ADHD diagnoses in children would be associated with (legal) drug-seeking behavior in parents. Serious classic autism, on the other hand, is not affected by any sort of physician-seeking behavior.

It may already be controlled for, but if not, the increased Acetaminophen intake could be from narcotic painkillers, which are often combined with Acetaminophen in prescription preparations to help prevent abuse. The same people seeking and using those around birth may later seek to get an ADHD diagnosis for a child for access to amphetamines, as narcotics use and amphetamine use are highly correlated together.

> the increased Acetaminophen intake could be from narcotic painkillers, which are often combined with Acetaminophen in prescription preparations to help prevent abuse

This is just evil. Congratulations, now we have opiate addicts with needlessly destroyed livers as well...

Re: Acetaminophen exposure in pregnancy linked to higher risk of ADHD, autism: study

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It may already be controlled for, but if not, the increased Acetaminophen intake could be from narcotic painkillers, which are often combined with Acetaminophen in prescription preparations to help prevent abuse. The same people seeking and using those around birth may later seek to get an ADHD diagnosis for a child for access to amphetamines, as narcotics use and amphetamine use are highly correlated together.

> the increased Acetaminophen intake could be from narcotic painkillers, which are often combined with Acetaminophen in prescription preparations to help prevent abuse This is just evil. Congratulations, now we have opiate addicts with needlessly destroyed livers as well...

I believe it allowed them to illicitly claim lower addictiveness in their clinical studies, since they could throw out people who removed the Acetaminophen with a filter (as is common in real abuse), as people not taking the prescribed combination (or the techniques for removing it only got broad use after it was already approved).
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