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Microsoft launches new open-source projects around Kubernetes and microservices

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Re: Microsoft launches new open-source projects around Kubernetes and microservices

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Post by latchkey »

mweibel wrote: post #7

OAM is essentially a YAML file. It can be put in a service catalog or marketplace and deployed from there. But what’s maybe most important, says Russinovich, is that the developer can hand off the specification to the ops team and the ops team can then deploy it without having to talk to the developer. This statement sounds very backwards to me. Isn't this increasing the separation between devs and ops which we want…

I concur, my same reaction as well. Every place I've worked at where there was a line drawn in the sand like this, showed a huge amount of dysfunction, chair spinning and finger pointing.

Re: Microsoft launches new open-source projects around Kubernetes and microservices

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Post by rumanator »

Links to related discussions:

* Dapr: an open-source project to make it easier to build microservices: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21272098

* Announcing the Open Application Model (OAM):

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21272082

Re: Microsoft launches new open-source projects around Kubernetes and microservices

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Post by Lutger »

mweibel wrote: post #7

OAM is essentially a YAML file. It can be put in a service catalog or marketplace and deployed from there. But what’s maybe most important, says Russinovich, is that the developer can hand off the specification to the ops team and the ops team can then deploy it without having to talk to the developer. This statement sounds very backwards to me. Isn't this increasing the separation between devs and ops which we want…

Agree. This looks to me as if the audience is traditional enterprise who haven't yet adopted DevOps and to make kubernetes more accessible. But those are likely better served by either a PaaS or serverless solution.

It doesn't inspire a great deal of confidence that the Azure CTO promotes this development model - if he isn't quoted out of context that is.

Re: Microsoft launches new open-source projects around Kubernetes and microservices

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Post by rumanator »

jmcomets wrote: post #10

I haven't used k8s that much, so I can't see what features OAM (or the implementation, rudr) adds to k8s. Could someone provide me with some insights?

On a previous HK discussion on OAM[¹], it was mentioned that the idea is to provide a higher level abstraction on kubernetes that enable developers to configure and deploy distributed applications in a platform-agnostic way.

One of the author's of the OAM spec mentioned that an OAM abstraction might enable developers to deploy to k8s, docker swarm or Apache mesos with the same OAM config, provided that all platforms (or vendors) implement/support the OAM API.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21272082

Re: Microsoft launches new open-source projects around Kubernetes and microservices

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Post by tikkabhuna »

mweibel wrote: post #7

OAM is essentially a YAML file. It can be put in a service catalog or marketplace and deployed from there. But what’s maybe most important, says Russinovich, is that the developer can hand off the specification to the ops team and the ops team can then deploy it without having to talk to the developer. This statement sounds very backwards to me. Isn't this increasing the separation between devs and ops which we want…

As he mentions marketplace, maybe he's talking about product developers and ops teams in other organisations? Elastic, for example, publish an OAM that helps X organisation to get started and they can customise the implementation?

Re: Microsoft launches new open-source projects around Kubernetes and microservices

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Post by rumanator »

markbnj wrote: post #3

I don't see a link to dig into the Open Application Model, and I don't have time to search for one tonight. Maybe kubernetes can benefit from a higher level of abstraction than helm charts provides, but I would need to see some use cases. I did get a kick out of: >> He also argues that Kubernetes itself is too complicated for enterprise developers. “At this point, it’s really infrastructure-focused,” he said. “You wa…

Here's a link to the Open Application Model spec.

https://openappmodel.io/

Re: Microsoft launches new open-source projects around Kubernetes and microservices

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Post by Assortlist »

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