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Gitlab: don't discuss politics at work

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Re: Gitlab: don't discuss politics at work

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When was it ever okay to discuss politics at work?

Maybe it's a SV thing? I saw some of the documents from a recent lawsuit against Google and was pretty astounded by the sorts of things that people were willing to not only say but actually put into writing where anyone on their intranet could see (things along the lines of "I won't let anyone on my team if they have political belief X or voted for Y")

That seems to make sense if you consider how political beliefs and preferred candidates correlate with given personality traits. Why is it stigmatized?

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/study-predicts...

Re: Gitlab: don't discuss politics at work

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Reminds me of Peter Handke's recent Nobel prize in literature, where the committee were/are heavily criticized for judging only by literature, and not by Handke's political viewpoints.

Maybe politics doesn't need to be involved in every single part of society, only the political aspects of it.

Re: Gitlab: don't discuss politics at work

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When was it ever okay to discuss politics at work?

Whenever you have reasonable adults working together?

I think I’ve, on appropriate occasion, discussed politics with friends and colleagues at every workplace I’ve ever been at. [Edit: some senior leadership] openly supports the DNC and has commented to that effect at town halls.

To pretend that people are apolitical or to ban all political discussions because some people can’t seem to handle disagreements in a professional manner is one way to handle the problem, but perhaps not the first nor optimal solution to implement.

Re: Gitlab: don't discuss politics at work

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When was it ever okay to discuss politics at work?

Nearly every place I've worked at (in the US) over the last 20 years has had an explicit prohibition against discussing politics or religion in the workplace.

I'm not saying if it's OK or not as a philosophical matter, but it does help make the workplace more pleasant.

Re: Gitlab: don't discuss politics at work

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I am glad Dang changed the title as the original one was unnecessarily inflammatory.

I don’t understand why it’s encouraged (in some companies) to discuss politics at work in a way that leads to internal issues. Purely from a commercial stance, team cohesion has a positive impact on people and product. Why do anything to disturb that?

> Such a declaration could run afoul of legal boundaries in some circumstances. While workers have no constitutional speech protection in the context of their employment, federal labor law requires that employees be allowed to discuss the terms and conditions of their employment and possible unlawful conduct like harassment, discrimination, and safety violations.

This seems like a false dichotomy. There is a difference between being amoral and illegal.

The nazi example they gave is also quite egregious. America has sanctions. If the public wants corporations to not interact with certain countries, they can ask their legislators to fascilitate passing of sanctions (like we have today against Syria, making it illegal to provide services to them).

Being held to a political moral standard is tricky if you are not in the mainline political stance. That would make me quite uncomfortable. I go to work to support myself and my family. Don’t make that hard for me to do due to politics.

Re: Gitlab: don't discuss politics at work

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Good to see that the very non-controversial opinion of “be neutral at work and treat customers equally” is being used to compare GitHub to IBM during Nazi Germany.

Why can’t GitHub just provide code version control systems without concerning itself with who is writing code?

Given the recent implosion of StackOverflow, less politics in tech is probably a good thing.

Re: Gitlab: don't discuss politics at work

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When was it ever okay to discuss politics at work?

Depending on your field, it can be unavoidable. Look at the stuff Facebook is having to deal with now, deciding whether to reject specific advertisements from US presidential candidates. It's impossible to tackle that without ending up just having regular old political discussions in the workplace, if only to figure out what actions to take.

Thankfully most jobs won't touch this but if you're running internet services it'll probably come up.

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