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Post by Jun8 »

hobbes wrote: post #4
Jun8 wrote: post #2

Just another reason to totally love my Kindle. As an aside, I just traveled with my Kindle to Europe and was ecstatic by the ability to load up on (free, from Gutenberg) books, and easily switch between them on the long flight. However, those who herald the end of books is here are very wrong. Except from the "many books on long trip" or "Netflix-like instant book delivery" (and a few other, like reading long web pag…

Pagination doesn't actually exist because (except for pdf's) there are no pages, only locations (see bottom of screen). Bookmarks mark locations, not pages.

Exactly, which take quite a bit of getting used to (see my comment above), because it doesn't work that way for real books. In fact when people cite references with page numbers, they usually give the precise editions of the book, since different editions may have the sentence or point being referenced on different pages. So it's important for the "bookmark" to hold the information about the whole text that the user sees a that time, I think.

Re: Send to Kindle: any web page text, with one click, using Chrome browser.

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Post by euroclydon »

hobbes wrote: post #4
Jun8 wrote: post #2

Just another reason to totally love my Kindle. As an aside, I just traveled with my Kindle to Europe and was ecstatic by the ability to load up on (free, from Gutenberg) books, and easily switch between them on the long flight. However, those who herald the end of books is here are very wrong. Except from the "many books on long trip" or "Netflix-like instant book delivery" (and a few other, like reading long web pag…

Pagination doesn't actually exist because (except for pdf's) there are no pages, only locations (see bottom of screen). Bookmarks mark locations, not pages.

Which makes it impossible to do anything other than read certain books straight through. I wanted to skip around in Infinite Jest, but since the chapter names are meaningless and all the book guides have page number references, it's impossible to know the book's outline.

Re: Send to Kindle: any web page text, with one click, using Chrome browser.

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Post by gyardley »

euroclydon wrote: post #10

I've gotten to where I hardly ever read from my latest-gen small-sized Kindle Wi-Fi. I prefer the touch screen interactivity of the Kindle app on my iPhone4. This makes me think that reading on an iPad would blow the Kindle away, with the only caveats being battery life and nighttime reading where I wouldn't want a back-light to keep me awake. Anyone else feel this way?

Unless I'm out in the sun, I prefer reading on my iPad to reading on a Kindle -- but since Amazon has the largest selection of e-books, I end up reading on my iPad using their Kindle application.

Amazon wins both ways.

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Post by thomas11 »

euroclydon wrote: post #10

I've gotten to where I hardly ever read from my latest-gen small-sized Kindle Wi-Fi. I prefer the touch screen interactivity of the Kindle app on my iPhone4. This makes me think that reading on an iPad would blow the Kindle away, with the only caveats being battery life and nighttime reading where I wouldn't want a back-light to keep me awake. Anyone else feel this way?

I wouldn't give up the Kindle for anything. The E-Paper screen feels much more comfortable on my eyes. Its size is perfect for having it always with me and reading with one hand in bed or on the train/bus. And I don't interact much with the Kindle anyways except turning pages or opening another book from the main screen.

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Post by dwwoelfel »

I've used this extension, Instapaper's wireless delivery, and Wordcycler (a desktop app that that syncs files from Instapaper when your Kindle is connected to your computer).

This extension is better than Instapaper's wireless delivery because it treats each article as a separate "book". Instapaper, on the other hand, groups all the unread articles in a single book with each article as a different chapter. This means that if you read halfway through one article you can't start another article without losing your place.

The extension also works better for me than Wordcycler because Wordcycler doesn't download the article from Instapaper. In order not to hammer Instapaper's servers, it grabs the URLs when you connect your Kindle, then downloads and formats the articles itself. By the time I connect my Kindle to my computer many of the articles are only available as previews, so Wordcycler doesn't get the full article.

Re: Send to Kindle: any web page text, with one click, using Chrome browser.

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Post by thwarted »

pedanticfreak wrote: post #6
philh wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The note taking interface is shockingly primitive, e.g. just to get a questions mark requires several clicks Do you normally make notes in your physical books? > AFAIK, pagination depends on you display, so bookmarks may change place among Kindle readers on different devices. The start of the page you bookmarked will still be the start of the page you jump to, whatever display layout you use. The pages might be dif…

Some people do annotate in the margins. Especially non-fiction books. At the very least I've been known to add a bookmark (i.e. shred of paper) to a particular spot with some notes written on it. My criticisms of the Kindle are for its page transitions and poor interface. The Kindle is really like the Blackberry of of digital readers. The interface is beyond clunky compared to simple taps and swipes that much more cl…

The interface is beyond clunky compared to simple taps and swipes that much more closely emulate the act of reading a physical book.

I've often felt that the "need" to emulate something in the real world on new devices and new interfaces has held back significant innovation. Despite that "the desktop metaphor" is supposed to be familiar, people still can't manage their files effectively. And now new interfaces are rare/difficult to gain traction because people are used to the desktop metaphor despite that it becomes less and less a good metaphor.

Re: Send to Kindle: any web page text, with one click, using Chrome browser.

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Post by topherjaynes »

philh wrote: post #5
Jun8 wrote: post #2

Just another reason to totally love my Kindle. As an aside, I just traveled with my Kindle to Europe and was ecstatic by the ability to load up on (free, from Gutenberg) books, and easily switch between them on the long flight. However, those who herald the end of books is here are very wrong. Except from the "many books on long trip" or "Netflix-like instant book delivery" (and a few other, like reading long web pag…

> The note taking interface is shockingly primitive, e.g. just to get a questions mark requires several clicks Do you normally make notes in your physical books? > AFAIK, pagination depends on you display, so bookmarks may change place among Kindle readers on different devices. The start of the page you bookmarked will still be the start of the page you jump to, whatever display layout you use. The pages might be dif…

Not only does it take several keys, but the placement of the keyboard is just awkward (I have a DX). If I have to take any meaningfully note I have to place the DX on the table/lap/somesurface and I chicken peck my note out.

Not to convenient, but I still love my Kindle for pure reading.

Re: Send to Kindle: any web page text, with one click, using Chrome browser.

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Post by pedanticfreak »

thwarted wrote: post #17
pedanticfreak wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some people do annotate in the margins. Especially non-fiction books. At the very least I've been known to add a bookmark (i.e. shred of paper) to a particular spot with some notes written on it. My criticisms of the Kindle are for its page transitions and poor interface. The Kindle is really like the Blackberry of of digital readers. The interface is beyond clunky compared to simple taps and swipes that much more cl…

The interface is beyond clunky compared to simple taps and swipes that much more closely emulate the act of reading a physical book. I've often felt that the "need" to emulate something in the real world on new devices and new interfaces has held back significant innovation. Despite that "the desktop metaphor" is supposed to be familiar, people still can't manage their files effectively. And now new interfaces are ra…

Regardless of whether we should or shouldn't emulate the real, I still stand by my statement that swipes and taps are superior to the Kindle interface. Perhaps in your case despite rather than because that interaction is more like reading a physical book.

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Post by ylem »

euroclydon wrote: post #10

I've gotten to where I hardly ever read from my latest-gen small-sized Kindle Wi-Fi. I prefer the touch screen interactivity of the Kindle app on my iPhone4. This makes me think that reading on an iPad would blow the Kindle away, with the only caveats being battery life and nighttime reading where I wouldn't want a back-light to keep me awake. Anyone else feel this way?

I have a Kindle, Ipad, and android phone (Droid X). Kindle: Pro: One great thing about the kindle is battery life and how easy it is on the eyes. For reading fiction, it's great. Con: It is horrible for technical work--pdfs in particular. If you're like me and you jump around in a book, it's impractical to do so on a kindle given the slow page refresh rate. Pro: The nice thing about the kindle app on the android phone is the convenience--when I'm standing in line at the grocery store (or am on the subway), I can catch up on some light reading and have finished a number of books this way that I wouldn't have ordinarily. Con: Screensize. I used to use the kindle app on the ipod touch and find the screensize of the Droid X to be a much better experience--but it's still small.

Ipad: Pro: The screensize is great and bookmarking pages is intuitive. Also, for technical books, I can get them in pdf form and use GoodReader.

Con: Battery life--for international flights, if you don't have power, you can survive, but the kindle wins with battery life hands down.

These are just my thoughts and as always ymmv.

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