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Don't Outsource Your Thinking (2015)

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Re: Don't Outsource Your Thinking (2015)

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I wish I could upvote this more. This is such a pain for me, to see a reported story and see an obvious question that any serious journalist could answer just sitting there, unanswered. It made me wonder what they teach in Journalism school these days.

As it turns out, not much about investigation. I looked through the curriculum at Berkeley[1] (a respected journalism school) and found things like J260[2] which is a seminar more on "why" of investigative reporting than the "how". There is also a "web skills"[3] class, but this is just about building a web site.

They really should consider adding a 'using the Internet to find people, corroborate sources, discover links between individuals and corporations, and to track ownership relationships.' Something that, as the author points out, is really a bunch of useful web sites and how to click them.

[1] https://journalism.berkeley.edu/curriculum/

[2] https://investigativereportingprogram.com/

[3] https://journalism.berkeley.edu/course-section/j215intro-to-...

Re: Don't Outsource Your Thinking (2015)

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It's seemed to me for a while that you could take an infosec-style approach and use voluntary controls, policies, procedures and third-party non-government certification via accounting firms to give the public more confidence in the press, something that is obviously fundamental to a democracy. Just like in infosec, controls (etc) do not guarantee safety (accuracy), but they let you know that processes were followed…

Yeah, be prepared to be treated like a paranoid schizophrenic when you do that.

You're going to stop having conversations, or will you be recording them all?

Not to say you shouldn't, but it isn't easy and requires a lot of consideration, energy and discipline.

The digital tools are definitely NOT ready, there's a few gigabytes of raw mathematical data to be processed by humans into algorithms before we get there.

Re: Don't Outsource Your Thinking (2015)

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It's seemed to me for a while that you could take an infosec-style approach and use voluntary controls, policies, procedures and third-party non-government certification via accounting firms to give the public more confidence in the press, something that is obviously fundamental to a democracy. Just like in infosec, controls (etc) do not guarantee safety (accuracy), but they let you know that processes were followed…

Yeah, be prepared to be treated like a paranoid schizophrenic when you do that. You're going to stop having conversations, or will you be recording them all? Not to say you shouldn't, but it isn't easy and requires a lot of consideration, energy and discipline. The digital tools are definitely NOT ready, there's a few gigabytes of raw mathematical data to be processed by humans into algorithms before we get there.

>HALDEMAN: It's a limited hang out.

>DEAN: It's a limited hang out.

>EHRLICHMAN: It's a modified limited hang out.

>NIXON: Well, it's only the questions of the thing hanging out publicly or privately.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_hangout

Sounds interesting when people are allowed to grep conversations for the scandal of the moment.

Re: Don't Outsource Your Thinking (2015)

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Michael Crichton observed this and called it the Gell-Mann amnesia effect. I think he said publicly that the name was to ride on the coat tails of Gell-Mann's public success:

>>> “Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray's case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the "wet streets cause rain" stories. Paper's full of them. In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.”

Re: Don't Outsource Your Thinking (2015)

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I don't believe there is anyone I've ever met whose thoughts were original to them in all particulars. I think it has been very seldom where I have met anyone that has had one original thought in their head, I'm pretty sure most thoughts, including mine were thought somewhere else and transmitted via some media. Probably in most cases the only originality lies in the assemblage of the thoughts and how they interact.

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Writers for media (I hesitate to call them “journalists”) have no incentive to find facts. They have an incentive to craft a story, based on whatever information they already have in front of them. If they already have most of a story, and a cursory search turns up no obviously interesting facts which add to the existing story, they’ll leave it there. There is simply no reason to go digging.

It’s only where there’s no story without digging, and/or where the more you dig the more story you get, when you get investigative journalism.

Re: Don't Outsource Your Thinking (2015)

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I wish I could upvote this more. This is such a pain for me, to see a reported story and see an obvious question that any serious journalist could answer just sitting there, unanswered. It made me wonder what they teach in Journalism school these days. As it turns out, not much about investigation. I looked through the curriculum at Berkeley[1] (a respected journalism school) and found things like J260[2] which is a…

These days newsrooms do have a bunch of technical people on staff (plus access to an amazing network of experts outside), to do the kind of digging the article talks about. Resource, time constraints, pressure to publish before someone else scoops you I think complicate the process.

It's similar to software companies pushing out workarounds and hacks to deal with bugs that there is no time/resource available to fully investigate.

Re: Don't Outsource Your Thinking (2015)

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post #17

Writers for media (I hesitate to call them “journalists”) have no incentive to find facts . They have an incentive to craft a story , based on whatever information they already have in front of them. If they already have most of a story, and a cursory search turns up no obviously interesting facts which add to the existing story, they’ll leave it there. There is simply no reason to go digging. It’s only where there’s…

This is incorrect. Have you worked as a journalist? Do you subscribe to any news that you actually have to pay for?

Re: Don't Outsource Your Thinking (2015)

#20
If journalism, as a profession, is to add more societal value than random blog posts, I think there needs to be a fundamental reworking of the medium. As it currently stands, the medium itself encourages sloppiness. A modest proposal:

1) Articles should, like legal briefs, support each non-trivial point with a footnote or citation. Primary sources, such as presses releases, documents, and transcripts, should be hyperlinked from the footnotes.

2) Long form articles—unless they appear in a literary magazine—should contain section headings ordered in a logical manner.

3) An adversarial aspect should be introduced into the medium. When a judge receives a legal brief, she doesn’t review the brief in isolation. Typically, there is an opening brief, a response, and a reply. It should be a matter of journalist practice to write response articles to other articles. Aggregators like Google News could then make it easy to see, for example, the Wall Street Journal’s response to a New York Times article.

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