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Larry Wall has approved renaming Perl 6 to Raku

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Re: Larry Wall has approved renaming Perl 6 to Raku

#11

Post by lilSebastian »

peterangular wrote: post #6
bifrost wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perl5 -> Perl6 has been highly contentious. Perl6 is basically a different language much to the chagrin of many Perl users. A lot of Perl users are entrenched in Perl5. FWIW: I'm unclear why people continue to use Perl at all, I moved on in 2011.

In the same boat on the "why haven't people moved on"... Perl use to be ubiquitous but over time it's really gone to the wayside vs. Python tooling for more complex stuff, and back to basic BASH for the simple scripting needs. Every time Perl comes up in a professional environment for me I'm reluctant to say I'm capable, because it's always a hacked-together mess from an engineer who's likely no longer with the compa…

> The language is terse

Only if you chose to write perl code in this way. The same could be said for many languages

Re: Larry Wall has approved renaming Perl 6 to Raku

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Post by lilSebastian »

overcast wrote: post #8
peterangular wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the same boat on the "why haven't people moved on"... Perl use to be ubiquitous but over time it's really gone to the wayside vs. Python tooling for more complex stuff, and back to basic BASH for the simple scripting needs. Every time Perl comes up in a professional environment for me I'm reluctant to say I'm capable, because it's always a hacked-together mess from an engineer who's likely no longer with the compa…

Definitely not anecdotal, that's the story from EVERY company.

> EVERY company

Not sure you know what the word every means.

Re: Larry Wall has approved renaming Perl 6 to Raku

#14

Post by notyourday »

bifrost wrote: post #4
overcast wrote: post #3

Can someone give the rest of us some context on this?

Perl5 -> Perl6 has been highly contentious. Perl6 is basically a different language much to the chagrin of many Perl users. A lot of Perl users are entrenched in Perl5. FWIW: I'm unclear why people continue to use Perl at all, I moved on in 2011.

> FWIW: I'm unclear why people continue to use Perl at all, I moved on in 2011.

Because it works. Scripts/software that works does not experience bit rot. As long as it works, people will continue to use it.

Edit: OK, fine. It seems the downvoters are convinced that the code does in fact experience bit rot, and spoils with time. Probably like fish.

Re: Larry Wall has approved renaming Perl 6 to Raku

#15

Post by Touche »

peterangular wrote: post #6
bifrost wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perl5 -> Perl6 has been highly contentious. Perl6 is basically a different language much to the chagrin of many Perl users. A lot of Perl users are entrenched in Perl5. FWIW: I'm unclear why people continue to use Perl at all, I moved on in 2011.

In the same boat on the "why haven't people moved on"... Perl use to be ubiquitous but over time it's really gone to the wayside vs. Python tooling for more complex stuff, and back to basic BASH for the simple scripting needs. Every time Perl comes up in a professional environment for me I'm reluctant to say I'm capable, because it's always a hacked-together mess from an engineer who's likely no longer with the compa…

> it's always a hacked-together mess from an engineer who's likely no longer with the company. (obviously this is VERY anecdotal to my career)

That's what programming is.

Re: Larry Wall has approved renaming Perl 6 to Raku

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Post by bifrost »

peterangular wrote: post #6
bifrost wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perl5 -> Perl6 has been highly contentious. Perl6 is basically a different language much to the chagrin of many Perl users. A lot of Perl users are entrenched in Perl5. FWIW: I'm unclear why people continue to use Perl at all, I moved on in 2011.

In the same boat on the "why haven't people moved on"... Perl use to be ubiquitous but over time it's really gone to the wayside vs. Python tooling for more complex stuff, and back to basic BASH for the simple scripting needs. Every time Perl comes up in a professional environment for me I'm reluctant to say I'm capable, because it's always a hacked-together mess from an engineer who's likely no longer with the compa…

Heh yeah, totally.

The only Perl I use these days is oooooooold software (MRTG) I guess with the exception of Spam Assassin and RT...

Re: Larry Wall has approved renaming Perl 6 to Raku

#18

Post by rafaelvasco »

bifrost wrote: post #4
overcast wrote: post #3

Can someone give the rest of us some context on this?

Perl5 -> Perl6 has been highly contentious. Perl6 is basically a different language much to the chagrin of many Perl users. A lot of Perl users are entrenched in Perl5. FWIW: I'm unclear why people continue to use Perl at all, I moved on in 2011.

In several instances it's a matter of comfort zone, one of the biggest enemies of positive progress;

Re: Larry Wall has approved renaming Perl 6 to Raku

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Post by bifrost »

notyourday wrote: post #14
bifrost wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perl5 -> Perl6 has been highly contentious. Perl6 is basically a different language much to the chagrin of many Perl users. A lot of Perl users are entrenched in Perl5. FWIW: I'm unclear why people continue to use Perl at all, I moved on in 2011.

> FWIW: I'm unclear why people continue to use Perl at all, I moved on in 2011. Because it works. Scripts/software that works does not experience bit rot. As long as it works, people will continue to use it. Edit: OK, fine. It seems the downvoters are convinced that the code does in fact experience bit rot, and spoils with time. Probably like fish.

Sure but there's a reason that development has moved off of Perl.

Re: Larry Wall has approved renaming Perl 6 to Raku

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Post by gillesjacobs »

ram_rar wrote: post #5

Can someone explain to me, for what kinda of new projects would they use Perl/Raku in 2019 at all?

A lot of my colleagues in NLP and text processing still prefer to write in Perl. Granted they are mostly the old guard but it is prevalent in academic language technology research.
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