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Re: Iraq introduces nightly internet curfew

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2019-10-09 https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/10/iraq-protests-latest-... >At least 110 people have been killed and more than 6,000 wounded in Baghdad and in the south, since security forces started cracking down on demonstrators. And the whole world is "outraged" about HK. Here on this thread the other posters are making jokes. If they killed every single person in the country no one would give a shit. Same way no…

> Same way no one gives a shit about Yemen.

There is an undeniable discrepancy on how we receive and perceive information about individual subjects; Where our attention is directed, and from where it's deviated - what I'm surprised about is how this persists despite a medium like the Internet.

Re: Iraq introduces nightly internet curfew

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post #12

2019-10-09 https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/10/iraq-protests-latest-... >At least 110 people have been killed and more than 6,000 wounded in Baghdad and in the south, since security forces started cracking down on demonstrators. And the whole world is "outraged" about HK. Here on this thread the other posters are making jokes. If they killed every single person in the country no one would give a shit. Same way no…

> Same way no one gives a shit about Yemen. There is an undeniable discrepancy on how we receive and perceive information about individual subjects; Where our attention is directed, and from where it's deviated - what I'm surprised about is how this persists despite a medium like the Internet.

It persists because massive resources are spent on manipulating the public’s attention. Regardless of the medium.

Re: Iraq introduces nightly internet curfew

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2019-10-09 https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/10/iraq-protests-latest-... >At least 110 people have been killed and more than 6,000 wounded in Baghdad and in the south, since security forces started cracking down on demonstrators. And the whole world is "outraged" about HK. Here on this thread the other posters are making jokes. If they killed every single person in the country no one would give a shit. Same way no…

"If they killed every single person in the country no one would give a shit. Same way no one gives a shit about Yemen."

Of course the world wouldn't give a shit: they're poor, badly clothed, darker skinned and (oh the horror!) even muslim, and when they finally all die their territory and oil will be up for grabs by the west.

(undisclaimer: that wasn't a joke)

Re: Iraq introduces nightly internet curfew

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2019-10-09 https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/10/iraq-protests-latest-... >At least 110 people have been killed and more than 6,000 wounded in Baghdad and in the south, since security forces started cracking down on demonstrators. And the whole world is "outraged" about HK. Here on this thread the other posters are making jokes. If they killed every single person in the country no one would give a shit. Same way no…

Same thing is happening in Gaza where over 200 civilians have been killed in the March of Return demonstrations over the last year. Our Western media reporting is insanely narrow and single-minded. One can only hope that, since we are outraged about the HK situation (as we should be!), it follows that we should be outraged about other worse situations too.

Re: Iraq introduces nightly internet curfew

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post #9

Obviously this is wrong and tyrannical etc. I can't help wondering though if this may have unexpected benefits for e.g.: sleep quality, civility in online discussions, exercise. It's hardly intended that way, but could end up being a net benefit for the well-being of citizens, particularly if it were implemented in a highly-developed country like the US.

I think this is the most HN comment ever read.

And no, having an Internet curfew for preventing bloody protests won't improve the well-being of citizens.

Re: Iraq introduces nightly internet curfew

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2019-10-09 https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/10/iraq-protests-latest-... >At least 110 people have been killed and more than 6,000 wounded in Baghdad and in the south, since security forces started cracking down on demonstrators. And the whole world is "outraged" about HK. Here on this thread the other posters are making jokes. If they killed every single person in the country no one would give a shit. Same way no…

> the whole world > no one gives a shit

You should speak for yourself. There are people who care but that does not make a difference unfortunately (yet or maybe never).

As well you shouldn't speak in absolutes IMHO.

Re: Iraq introduces nightly internet curfew

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post #16
post #9

Obviously this is wrong and tyrannical etc. I can't help wondering though if this may have unexpected benefits for e.g.: sleep quality, civility in online discussions, exercise. It's hardly intended that way, but could end up being a net benefit for the well-being of citizens, particularly if it were implemented in a highly-developed country like the US.

I think this is the most HN comment ever read. And no, having an Internet curfew for preventing bloody protests won't improve the well-being of citizens.

Depends on whether it's successful in preventing bloody protests. Almost everything is better than war.

Re: Iraq introduces nightly internet curfew

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Do they follow with a regular curfew as well?

The martial law introduced in Poland from December 13, 1981 to July 22, 1983 resulted in an unmatched birth rate increase. The 82-84 generation was big, with all the future consequences even after the fall of communism in 1989: overpopulation in schools, difficult job market, but many friends on the playgrounds. The generation of 88 and later didn't have these issues. But had others ;)

Thanks to Poland's quick economic development and rise in life quality & capacity, the 82-84 generation didn't create another baby boom, as their births were spread out over a 10 year period. Some had children at 25, some at 35. This, coupled with the 90-94 generation not willing to have kids early, of course led to an overall drop in fertility, which the current government is trying to fix by throwing money at it. The situation didn't get worse, but fertility didn't get much better either. Most don't want to have 3 or more kids these days. And that's what we need if we want to make more kids than the economic immigrants and the third world countries, so we can keep our retirement and workforce afloat. Or we put it on the shoulders of these immigrants. But then in a few decades the current western culture will be replaced with a new one. I'm not saying it's good or bad. But it's healthy to understand the possible futures. I know which one I like more, and hopefully will work towards it.

Boy did I go off-topic...

Re: Iraq introduces nightly internet curfew

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post #6

What's the impact in Iraq for businesses (big and small) relying on the Internet?

"It is believed that Iraq has introduced formal curfew times after push-back from industry, which has incurred costs spiralling into the hundreds of millions as a direct result of the internet disruptions, estimated using figures from the COST tool."

This curfew is a scaling back of previous heavier restrictions.

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