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Re: Dear Stack Exchange, Inc.

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Post by wyclif » Mon, Oct 07, 2019, 3:10 AM UTC

ronnier wrote: post #6

King-Aaron wrote: post #4

I remember when Stack Exchange was about fixing broken code.

Politics have crept into every aspect of life unfortunately.

Still quite difficult for normies to get to the 15 reputation threshold on SO in order to begin using the site effectively. There are problems here that run a lot deeper than political correctness, though I don't want to minimize how cancerous that has been.

Re: Dear Stack Exchange, Inc.

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Post by decebalus1 » Mon, Oct 07, 2019, 3:11 AM UTC

fenwick67 wrote: post #7

I would love a nice couple paragraphs that said "here's what happened", otherwise taking any side in this is just taking shots in the dark, I'm basically reading "certain events happened with a certain individual and that's not okay"

+1 I feel I should care about this but I don't believe it's worth investing the time to go through walls of text of 'he said' 'she said' biased explanations. I'm probably better off..

Re: Dear Stack Exchange, Inc.

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Post by chimi » Mon, Oct 07, 2019, 3:12 AM UTC

Honest Question: Why continue to support stack exchange through this? They have shown themselves to be disingenuous at best. They are now profiting off free labor. They started it because ExpertsExchange was hiding answers. They rode the high horse to hypocrisy.

Why continue helping people like that succeed?

Why not just start a new one? Leave en masse to a new playground. Speak with your answers.

Show the powers that be they can't treat the sharecroppers like this anymore.

Hasn't history shown the way? It's repeating itself all over this controversy.

Is this an inevitability? How can this be prevented?

It feels like the issue regarding Monica is just the issue we are all talking about, but ultimately, it goes much deeper.

Re: Dear Stack Exchange, Inc.

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Post by 0x262d » Mon, Oct 07, 2019, 3:13 AM UTC

ronnier wrote: post #6

King-Aaron wrote: post #4

I remember when Stack Exchange was about fixing broken code.

Politics have crept into every aspect of life unfortunately.

well, everything is political for most people who aren't fortunate enough to be born as the default universally accepted type of person, with enough money to not worry too much about that either.

most of the conflict here comes from dealing with people who can't accept that everything is politicized and their actions matter along a political dimension whether they care or not.

Re: Dear Stack Exchange, Inc.

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Post by ben174 » Mon, Oct 07, 2019, 3:14 AM UTC

It's incredible that pronouns can bring down an entire community. Pick you battles please, we're losing good things because of this silly conflict.

Re: Dear Stack Exchange, Inc.

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Post by frittig » Mon, Oct 07, 2019, 3:15 AM UTC

xibalba wrote: post #5

I suspect that the average user of SE will not care one bit about this whole drama. I do find it frustrating, puzzling, and sad how SE appears to have treated Monica Cellio. She provides an excellent summary (from her perspective) here: https://cellio.dreamwidth.org/2064709.html

one thing that I love about SE is that everyone is very professional. almost all answers are either sourced or can easily be seen to be correct. what I am worried is that if a lot of the normal mods quit and our replaced with new mods, who may be more political, SE will turn into Reddit where leftist politics prevail in all of the major subreddits and most responses to factual questions consist of options or unsourced "facts". if that ever becomes the case then I will be sad. although, when seeing how the admins of Reddit act, I'm guessing that acting like they do is good for business.

Re: Dear Stack Exchange, Inc.

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Post by xibalba » Mon, Oct 07, 2019, 3:15 AM UTC

fenwick67 wrote: post #7

I would love a nice couple paragraphs that said "here's what happened", otherwise taking any side in this is just taking shots in the dark, I'm basically reading "certain events happened with a certain individual and that's not okay"

As asked: https://cellio.dreamwidth.org/2064709.html

Re: Dear Stack Exchange, Inc.

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Post by zaroth » Mon, Oct 07, 2019, 3:17 AM UTC

xibalba wrote: post #5

I suspect that the average user of SE will not care one bit about this whole drama. I do find it frustrating, puzzling, and sad how SE appears to have treated Monica Cellio. She provides an excellent summary (from her perspective) here: https://cellio.dreamwidth.org/2064709.html

At least there is this bit at the very bottom;

> Breaking news, October 6 21:00 UTC: the CTO stepped in, accepted responsibility, apologized to the community, and promised to contact me directly to apologize and discuss next steps. Finally! I look forward to that contact.

Re: Dear Stack Exchange, Inc.

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Post by Espressosaurus » Mon, Oct 07, 2019, 3:19 AM UTC

ronnier wrote: post #6

King-Aaron wrote: post #4

I remember when Stack Exchange was about fixing broken code.

Politics have crept into every aspect of life unfortunately.

Politics is part of every human endeavor: between kids on the playground, in the workplace, at the level of local, regional, national, and international governments and businesses.

Politics and the negotiation of status and access between various in and out groups is a fundamental part of being human.

Re: Dear Stack Exchange, Inc.

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Post by SnarkAsh » Mon, Oct 07, 2019, 3:20 AM UTC

wyclif wrote: post #11

ronnier wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Politics have crept into every aspect of life unfortunately.

Still quite difficult for normies to get to the 15 reputation threshold on SO in order to begin using the site effectively. There are problems here that run a lot deeper than political correctness, though I don't want to minimize how cancerous that has been.

"normies"?