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Re: Wolfram Rule 30 Prizes

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It is pretty hard in general to prove that calculating things takes at least O(n) time, so I wouldn't expect that one to be solved any time soon.

Personally, I am curious if there is any cellular automaton that has something like 3-dimensional rotational symmetry. If our universe can be described by a cellular automaton, it isn't obvious to me how such a symmetry could arise, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone figured it out.

Re: Wolfram Rule 30 Prizes

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What are the implications of positive/negative answers to these questions, and/or what else aside from "because it's there" motivates answering these questions?

Who knows? Answers to these questions might spur discussion on connections between cellular automata and other computational constructions. I think that's Wolfram's angle -- justify the cellular-automata-is-everything tack that he's been on the past 20-30 years.

Maybe it's a scheme to drum up attention for his new upcoming line of "Rule 30 Wearable Cellular Automata Clothing and Fashion Accessories".

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/fbz/knityak-custom-math...

They make great tattoos too:

http://i.imgur.com/mct1AFX.jpg

https://geekytattoos.wordpress.com/2011/04/14/wolfram-2-stat...

That one is actually quite controversial:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfram%27s_2-state_3-symbol_T...

Re: Wolfram Rule 30 Prizes

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I gave some links to visualizations of CA basins of attraction including Rule 30 in my previous post about "Garden of Eden" configurations: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14468707 There's a thing called a "Garden of Eden" configuration that has no predecessors, which is impossible to get to from any other possible state. For a rule like Life, there are many possible configurations that must have been created by…

The third link is a dead link, but it looks like it's up here now: http://users.sussex.ac.uk/~andywu/gdca.html

The PDF is here: http://users.sussex.ac.uk/~andywu/downloads/papers/global_dy...

Re: Wolfram Rule 30 Prizes

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I gave some links to visualizations of CA basins of attraction including Rule 30 in my previous post about "Garden of Eden" configurations: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14468707 There's a thing called a "Garden of Eden" configuration that has no predecessors, which is impossible to get to from any other possible state. For a rule like Life, there are many possible configurations that must have been created by…

The third link is a dead link, but it looks like it's up here now: http://users.sussex.ac.uk/~andywu/gdca.html The PDF is here: http://users.sussex.ac.uk/~andywu/downloads/papers/global_dy...

Thank you! I fixed the links, and added the link to the Doctor-Seuss-like pencil drawing.

Re: Wolfram Rule 30 Prizes

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love this phrase: "naturally constructed" numbers, suggesting that the numbers we use every day are themselves computational conveniences, and possibly that another number construction could be useful at other scales.

I thought maybe this was a reference to constructivist mathematics, to refer to only this numbers that are algorithmic and exclude numbers we know exist in ℝ but have to be proven to exist using the axiom of choice.

Re: Wolfram Rule 30 Prizes

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Has anyone seen a version of Rule 30 for a 2D array, instead of 1D? I'm doing some searching but can't find one. Somewhat tangential to my angle of attack, but would be helpful to me.

Re: Wolfram Rule 30 Prizes

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post #11

It is pretty hard in general to prove that calculating things takes at least O(n) time, so I wouldn't expect that one to be solved any time soon. Personally, I am curious if there is any cellular automaton that has something like 3-dimensional rotational symmetry. If our universe can be described by a cellular automaton, it isn't obvious to me how such a symmetry could arise, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone fi…

> It is pretty hard in general to prove that calculating things takes at least O(n) time

It's much simpler depending on the answer to the first question, right?

It's been a while since I've touched big-O, but I'm pretty sure that if the center column is periodic (period of P cells), then it follows that you just have to compute the P cells and then index into them, which makes it O(1).

Re: Wolfram Rule 30 Prizes

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So I typed a couple of digits into OEIS, which returned http://oeis.org/A080847, "mu(n) + 2", where mu is the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%B6bius_function

This doesn't appear to be true for arbitrarily many digits, and I'm struggling to see how the two fields may even be connected. Some properties appear similar, eg. the Möbius function, too, appears to sum up to 0.

Re: Wolfram Rule 30 Prizes

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post #11

It is pretty hard in general to prove that calculating things takes at least O(n) time, so I wouldn't expect that one to be solved any time soon. Personally, I am curious if there is any cellular automaton that has something like 3-dimensional rotational symmetry. If our universe can be described by a cellular automaton, it isn't obvious to me how such a symmetry could arise, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone fi…

> Personally, I am curious if there is any cellular automaton that has something like 3-dimensional rotational symmetry.

Have you seen the Miller-Fredkin paper on circular motion of strings in cellular automata?

https://arxiv.org/abs/1206.2060

Re: Wolfram Rule 30 Prizes

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Has anyone seen a version of Rule 30 for a 2D array, instead of 1D? I'm doing some searching but can't find one. Somewhat tangential to my angle of attack, but would be helpful to me.

What? Rule 30 is on a 2D plane.

EDIT: Oh I understand now! Each generation is 1D. Thanks for explaining! :D

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