Genuine question: Who benefits when everything we ever do, say, etc. is permanently recorded on a grand, systemtic level?
Who benefits if we legally create the ability to delete history?
Europeans have a 'right to be forgotten' online. Should Canadians?
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Re: Europeans have a 'right to be forgotten' online. Should Canadians?
#12Genuine question: Who benefits when everything we ever do, say, etc. is permanently recorded on a grand, systemtic level?
This forum itself is a great example of who is benefited.
Re: Europeans have a 'right to be forgotten' online. Should Canadians?
#13I really hate the 'right to be forgotten'... it infringes on other people's 'right to remember' I should be able to talk about my experience with someone else in a public forum, even if that information is something that person doesn't want others to know.
It's a ridiculous law that will have to change once deepfakes become more prevalent. Some type of real identity on the web I believe will need to take hold.
The Internet is a public forum would do and say the same things in public you do online?
Re: Europeans have a 'right to be forgotten' online. Should Canadians?
#14Re: Europeans have a 'right to be forgotten' online. Should Canadians?
#15I really hate the 'right to be forgotten'... it infringes on other people's 'right to remember' I should be able to talk about my experience with someone else in a public forum, even if that information is something that person doesn't want others to know.
> I should be able to talk about my experience with someone else in a public forum, even if that information is something that person doesn't want others to know. Europe right to be forgotten only applies to publicly indexed searches, not the content - according to the top court Nothing you said seems to be the reality that exists So just bookmark a page and revisit it later, the tools have existed since the 90s
That's not true, just yesterday there was trending article[1] about journalist who was forced to take down the article.
Re: Europeans have a 'right to be forgotten' online. Should Canadians?
#16I'm surprised everyone has such black and white views on this. Some things are in the public's interest to record permanently. Some aren't. Laws that respect that distinction are great.
Recording everything forever is good in the same way that a total lack of privacy is good. Many things should be transparent, and they should be recorded. But there's room for nuance.
Re: Europeans have a 'right to be forgotten' online. Should Canadians?
#17Should anybody? This could be used to remove accountability, and certainly will.
Lot's of things can be used for bad things like cars and knives. There are checks in place so information that is important for society is not forgotten.
> There are checks in place so information that is important for society is not forgotten.
Could you expound on these checks?
Re: Europeans have a 'right to be forgotten' online. Should Canadians?
#18I was recently browsing the terms and agreements of a Swiss online merchant and stumbled upon this,
'Swiss law requires us to archive business data for 10+ years. This means that we do not have the right to "forget" you.' [1]
It's unclear to me how Europeans have a right to be forgotten given the above.
Re: Europeans have a 'right to be forgotten' online. Should Canadians?
#19I was recently browsing the terms and agreements of a Swiss online merchant and stumbled upon this, 'Swiss law requires us to archive business data for 10+ years. This means that we do not have the right to "forget" you.' [1] It's unclear to me how Europeans have a right to be forgotten given the above. [1] https://www.swissmicros.com/terms.php
Switzerland isn’t part of the EU. They are free to have laws that conflict with the EU’s laws.
Re: Europeans have a 'right to be forgotten' online. Should Canadians?
#20Should anybody? This could be used to remove accountability, and certainly will.
I was thinking about the right to be forgotten just the other day. It reminds me of the line "democracy is the worst form of government, except from all of the others which we've tried". Imagine a young person who gets wrapped up in some illegal activity. 30 years later settled down with a wife and kids he goes for a job interview and the person across the desk happens to have googled his name. That to me doesn't fee…
The question is if you should defend the rights of the past offenders or current potential victim. Sure, there might be repercussions for past conduct, but at the end just one person is responsible for it. On the other hand you have potential victims who can't protect themselves by doing background check on potential perpetrator. If you prevent the victim from taking reasonable precautions, aren't you at least a little bit complicit?