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Adobe Provides facial recognition Software for DHS and ICE

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Re: Adobe Provides facial recognition Software for DHS and ICE

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It's perfectly legal and fine for companies to provide products and services to their home governments. What's the issue here?

Ok, but sometimes our moral compass points away from these things and we need to make hard decisions to do the right thing.

Then change the government. This proxy war against corporations is just silly.

Re: Adobe Provides facial recognition Software for DHS and ICE

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Where does it say they provide facial recognition software? I looked through the attached "Limited Sources Justification" PDF and the three areas they claim to be using Adobe software for are "Digital Media" (this is Acrobat and Reader), "Digital Marketing" (Creative Suite) and "Digital Meetings". Maybe this is the wrong contract??

The only thing I can come up with is there is a part that says something like “user-facing, business-facing” which seems like what may have been confused? The LSG only talks about using well known adobe products. https://www.fbo.gov/utils/view?id=6f4e5737cc7bd661210bf56766...

They put money-recognition into Photoshop in the past -

https://petapixel.com/2011/08/09/heres-what-happens-when-you...

So perhaps they are putting facial-recognition in too?

https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/14/18678782/adobe-machine-le...

Re: Adobe Provides facial recognition Software for DHS and ICE

#13

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Legal maybe, moral idk, given what they do.

If there's a morality issue, that should be directed at the government.

Why? This way also works. Good luck changing the govt.

Re: Adobe Provides facial recognition Software for DHS and ICE

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Where does it say they provide facial recognition software? I looked through the attached "Limited Sources Justification" PDF and the three areas they claim to be using Adobe software for are "Digital Media" (this is Acrobat and Reader), "Digital Marketing" (Creative Suite) and "Digital Meetings". Maybe this is the wrong contract??

Agree -- I scanned this myself, looking for the 'Facial Recognition' mentions. Broadly this seems a justification to purchase Adobe by brand (rather than competitive tendering) for Digital Media, Digital Marketing, and Digital Meeting functionalities.

Pretty hi-tech stuff, but from what I could gather "Digital Media" means using Acrobat/ Reader for forms.

Much as I dislike Adobe, there doesn't seem much going on here.

Re: Adobe Provides facial recognition Software for DHS and ICE

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If there's a morality issue, that should be directed at the government.

Why? This way also works. Good luck changing the govt.

This way just creates chaos and rarely results in any long-term change.

And the government changes all the time. It's called voting, and interacting with your representatives. If you have time to be outraged at corporations then you certainly have time to be involved with politics to create change.

Re: Adobe Provides facial recognition Software for DHS and ICE

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I like how people are being trained Pavlovian style to go after tech companies that provide services to alphabet agencies with this administration. Did people complain with the last administration? Will people complain with the next administration?

Whether you agree or not with the current administration, the government still needs to operate and keep in line with technology. If you are angry with how DHS and ICE operate, what do you propose? Jeopardize the safety Americans for what benefit?

Re: Adobe Provides facial recognition Software for DHS and ICE

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, but sometimes our moral compass points away from these things and we need to make hard decisions to do the right thing.

Then change the government. This proxy war against corporations is just silly.

Proxy war? I can use my wallet, my voice, and my labor power as I please including strikes and boycotts. Isn't that how the "free market" is supposed to work?

This is the 2nd time in 24 hrs that someone has made your argument, where is it coming from?

Re: Adobe Provides facial recognition Software for DHS and ICE

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, but sometimes our moral compass points away from these things and we need to make hard decisions to do the right thing.

Then change the government. This proxy war against corporations is just silly.

I don't think it's silly. I don't boycott companies -- that is, I don't stop doing business with companies in an attempt at getting them to change their behavior.

However, there are companies that engage in activities that I find objectionable enough that I simply don't want to help fund them. So I don't buy from those companies. Nothing silly about it.

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