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Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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Post by tyri_kai_psomi »

Bootwizard wrote: post #5

"Public health recommendations promoting physical activity should incorporate advice to avoid periods of sedentary behaviour." How do we interpret and apply information like this? Many people work in front a computer these days so it can't actually be applied to them (read us).

> How do we interpret and apply information like this?

Specifically for me, I like the fact that my Apple Watch reminds me to stand after it has detected I have been siting for a long period of time. It also prompts me to take a brisk walk as well.

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Post by hombre_fatal »

Bootwizard wrote: post #5

"Public health recommendations promoting physical activity should incorporate advice to avoid periods of sedentary behaviour." How do we interpret and apply information like this? Many people work in front a computer these days so it can't actually be applied to them (read us).

Where there's a will, there's a way.

At first I was known as that pushup guy at the office, then all the guys did it with me. It was almost a joke. "Alright, it's pushup time!" and my group did pushups. We even got a pullup bar installed. Some people preferred to take those times to walk a lap outside.

If we're going to generalize about what can/can't be done at a software developer job, punctuating the job with some brief exercise is in the "can" camp.

Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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Post by bbeckerman »

I don't have access to the article - does anyone know what they mean by "sedentary"? From the abstract it looks like there was an 80%/10k reduction in steps taken, which would mean these are people taking ~12.5k steps a day. Is that what they mean by active, or was there a requirement for, e.g., vigorous cardiovascular exercise?

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Post by throwaway8941 »

bbeckerman wrote: post #13

I don't have access to the article - does anyone know what they mean by "sedentary"? From the abstract it looks like there was an 80%/10k reduction in steps taken, which would mean these are people taking ~12.5k steps a day. Is that what they mean by active, or was there a requirement for, e.g., vigorous cardiovascular exercise?

It's open access.

https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007%2Fs00125-018-4...

>Physical activity was assessed in participants’free-living envi-ronment. A mean daily step count >10,000 was required forparticipants to be eligible. Screening was blinded and consistedof monitoring from midnight to midnight on 4 consecutivedays, including 1 weekend day. If eligible, participantsunderwent their initial assessment visits before being instructedto reduce their activity to ~1500 steps for 14 days

>Mean daily step count was similar between the two groups at baseline: FDR+ve, 12524 ± 2137 vs FDR−ve, 13036 ± 2481 steps (p= 0.391).

>During the step-reduction period, average daily step count decreased by 10285 steps(95% CI 9389, 11182;p1.5 METS (i.e. light, moderate andvigorous) decreased during the step-reduction period (allp< 0.001).

Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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Post by hohoho12345 »

umvi wrote: post #4
dlphn___xyz wrote: post #3

the sky is blue and water is wet

Downvoted because these types of comments are unsubstantive. You are basically just affirming Linus's Law: "given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow". Just because the bug is shallow to you doesn't mean it is shallow to everyone .

I agree with the guy above you; the results of their hypothesis were already very well known. Everyone realizes that getting less exercise decreases calories burned in a day. These studies need to start going further in depth than just reading that your health gets worse if you stop exercising.

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #2

I love the phrase metabolic derangements. It accurately conveys how completely abnormal the changes are.

It seems melodramatic to me. And these abnormal changes can be mitigated by walking those 10,000 steps a day they reduced their activity by. That requires a conscious effort, but it's not an onerous burden.

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Post by ravenstine »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #12
Bootwizard wrote: post #5

"Public health recommendations promoting physical activity should incorporate advice to avoid periods of sedentary behaviour." How do we interpret and apply information like this? Many people work in front a computer these days so it can't actually be applied to them (read us).

Where there's a will, there's a way. At first I was known as that pushup guy at the office, then all the guys did it with me. It was almost a joke. "Alright, it's pushup time!" and my group did pushups. We even got a pullup bar installed. Some people preferred to take those times to walk a lap outside. If we're going to generalize about what can/can't be done at a software developer job, punctuating the job with some…

Unfortunately, there are workplaces that will remove things like a pullup bar because it's seen as a distraction.

Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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Post by onemoresoop »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #12
Bootwizard wrote: post #5

"Public health recommendations promoting physical activity should incorporate advice to avoid periods of sedentary behaviour." How do we interpret and apply information like this? Many people work in front a computer these days so it can't actually be applied to them (read us).

Where there's a will, there's a way. At first I was known as that pushup guy at the office, then all the guys did it with me. It was almost a joke. "Alright, it's pushup time!" and my group did pushups. We even got a pullup bar installed. Some people preferred to take those times to walk a lap outside. If we're going to generalize about what can/can't be done at a software developer job, punctuating the job with some…

Kudos but it's not even necessary to go that far, basically sitting down and being indoors all day long is the culprit and incorporating more walking activities in our daily lives would be a good start. Pushups and exercises are good on the body but are not addressing root of the problem, they're merely ways to cope with it.

Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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Post by Cyclone_ »

Bootwizard wrote: post #5

"Public health recommendations promoting physical activity should incorporate advice to avoid periods of sedentary behaviour." How do we interpret and apply information like this? Many people work in front a computer these days so it can't actually be applied to them (read us).

Do things like take breaks to walk around, use a standing desk, do some sort of physical activity before lunch like go swimming or ride a bike. If the company frowns on this shame on them for being a horrible place to work.

Re: Increased sedentary behaviour alters metabolism and body composition (2018)

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Post by tom_mellior »

Bootwizard wrote: post #5

"Public health recommendations promoting physical activity should incorporate advice to avoid periods of sedentary behaviour." How do we interpret and apply information like this? Many people work in front a computer these days so it can't actually be applied to them (read us).

I work in front of a computer, at a standing desk. You can get adjustable desks too and stand for part of the day.

The "not sitting" part is achievable, I believe there are countries (Denmark maybe?) that even mandate that computer desks in offices be adjustable so everyone can choose whether to sit or stand.

That said, I've been working at my standing desk for over a year, I wasn't very fit before, and I don't feel any different now. I don't think that literal "not sitting" has great benefits in itself. Standing is not exercise, you would have to move more to get a real benefit. This study might be measuring a difference in steps taken rather than in "sedentary" behavior vs. standing in place.

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