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Re: Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

#11
CSS in email clients is a mess. Like IE6 on steroids.

I switched to a Windows on my work laptop about 6 months ago, and the native Win 10 email client is probably the worst offender out there. Even the popular mailing lists (like IH, PH, etc) are completely broken to the point of unreadable in Windows 10 Mail.

Mailchimp has a pretty good guides on how to create cross-compatible layouts:

https://templates.mailchimp.com

Re: Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

#12
post #4

It would be really nice to have a small and simple markup language, say some markdown standard, to be the layouting language for E-Mails. No (external) images, just links, lists, headings, basic formatting. HTML E-Mails are a security nightmare, even if "only" CSS is "allowed" and JS/iframes/external images are not loaded.

Something like this? http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1896.txt

Re: Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

#13
post #6

> This page ranks email clients based on their support among the 58 HTML and CSS features listed on Can I email. > (Because every test is done manually, some features might not have been tested on every email client.) I wonder, could they not create a single test email exercising all 58 features? Then one would just have to open the test email in a given client and compare it to a reference rendering. (Kind of like t…

I would guess that there are certain unforeseen interactions between failed implementations, maybe certain ones prevent emails from being rendered etc. I suppose those could be documented as well, but would take a lot of extra effort to figure out the combinations.

Re: Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

#15
post #2

This is good! I have searched for this actually. However this seems to lack the most important thing (for me): the global usage percentage of a particular feature, which is the #1 deciding factor whether to use a HTML/CSS feature or not.

I think that would be difficult to calculate accurately. We can collect user-agent statistics from browsers but mail clients don't have an equivalent when reading mail.

Re: Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

#16
post #12
post #4

It would be really nice to have a small and simple markup language, say some markdown standard, to be the layouting language for E-Mails. No (external) images, just links, lists, headings, basic formatting. HTML E-Mails are a security nightmare, even if "only" CSS is "allowed" and JS/iframes/external images are not loaded.

Something like this? http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1896.txt

Thanks for the RFC link. Yes, basically.

I mean, different mime versions of the same content are a possibility to do this transition: Send both plaintext, HTML and markdown, and the receiver could choose to display markdown if he otherwise would display plain text.

To be honest, this won't come. Google is pushing AMP into mails, that's exactly the opposite direction.

Re: Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

#18
Just saw Rémi Parmentiers talk at SmashingConf 2019, worth a watch, it's not online yet though, so you guys might have to wait a day or two. He's the guy behind this project and probably one of the most knowledgable persons about everything email.

Re: Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

#19
post #4

It would be really nice to have a small and simple markup language, say some markdown standard, to be the layouting language for E-Mails. No (external) images, just links, lists, headings, basic formatting. HTML E-Mails are a security nightmare, even if "only" CSS is "allowed" and JS/iframes/external images are not loaded.

Beside, I am using Markdown in all my email thanks to https://markdown-here.com/ and Thunderbird

Re: Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

#20
post #11

CSS in email clients is a mess. Like IE6 on steroids. I switched to a Windows on my work laptop about 6 months ago, and the native Win 10 email client is probably the worst offender out there. Even the popular mailing lists (like IH, PH, etc) are completely broken to the point of unreadable in Windows 10 Mail. Mailchimp has a pretty good guides on how to create cross-compatible layouts: https://templates.mailchimp.co…

From what I remember outlook uses the word rendering engine. Writing any kind of layout that works on all email clients is absolute hell. For most complex layouts it seems most companies just send it as an image with the text being the only other element
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