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Keybase and Stellar Partner on XLM Airdrop Worth $118M

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Re: Keybase and Stellar Partner on XLM Airdrop Worth $118M

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I'm confused by the stellar sign-up terms. "6. WE ARE UNABLE TO HELP DISTRIBUTE SDF LUMENS TO USERS IN CERTAIN COUNTRIES. By activating this wallet you agree you're not in Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Syria, Sudan, Crimea, or any other country or region subject to sanctions by OFAC; further you agree you're not a non-resident alien of the United States." So this is only open to people living in the USA or people with som…

It's actually pretty scary giving out money (in any form) to international peoples potentially sanctioned by OFAC. Making it their problem through an EULA is an interesting strategy.

But what about people from countries other than the US that are are not sanctioned by OFAC? "further you agree you're not a non-resident alien of the United States"

Going by this [1] definition of nonresident alien, I am not a citizen of the USA so I'm an alien, and I don't live in the USA so I'm a non-resident alien.

[1] https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/dete...

Re: Keybase and Stellar Partner on XLM Airdrop Worth $118M

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When I first saw this I just assumed it was some sort of spam/scam. What's the rationale for giving away money here? Is it purely Keybase/Stellar marketing? How is Keybase planning on making money?

Just think of it as Universal Basic Income... get your coinage into circulation, and when people use your coins to exchange value, now your coins have value! So as the coin minter, hopefully you've kept some coins for yourself too, and now you have money!

Re: Keybase and Stellar Partner on XLM Airdrop Worth $118M

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When I first saw this I just assumed it was some sort of spam/scam. What's the rationale for giving away money here? Is it purely Keybase/Stellar marketing? How is Keybase planning on making money?

Just think of it as Universal Basic Income... get your coinage into circulation, and when people use your coins to exchange value, now your coins have value! So as the coin minter, hopefully you've kept some coins for yourself too, and now you have money!

Yes, I get that. So is Keybase banking on XLM itself to drive their revenue?

Re: Keybase and Stellar Partner on XLM Airdrop Worth $118M

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This happened? So even though I have a Keybase account that I use regularly, because I didn't click "join the airdrop", I missed this month's giveaway?

Nope, that's not the case, in fact you'll get the Lumens automatically within a day or so. If you want to _continue_ after the first month, you'll need to click the button in the app saying you want to. But you have a month to do that.

I don't see any details on this in my keybase, it's a big confusing to say something has already happened and I'm wondering if I was included or not... I've verified my HN and GitHub.

Perhaps it's still being rolled out, can't complain :)

Re: Keybase and Stellar Partner on XLM Airdrop Worth $118M

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's actually pretty scary giving out money (in any form) to international peoples potentially sanctioned by OFAC. Making it their problem through an EULA is an interesting strategy.

But what about people from countries other than the US that are are not sanctioned by OFAC? "further you agree you're not a non-resident alien of the United States" Going by this [1] definition of nonresident alien, I am not a citizen of the USA so I'm an alien, and I don't live in the USA so I'm a non-resident alien. [1] https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/dete...

The IRS is only writing its definitions for the sake of people in the US. That's presumed from context. Otherwise, why care what the IRS has to say?

Re: Keybase and Stellar Partner on XLM Airdrop Worth $118M

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just think of it as Universal Basic Income... get your coinage into circulation, and when people use your coins to exchange value, now your coins have value! So as the coin minter, hopefully you've kept some coins for yourself too, and now you have money!

Yes, I get that. So is Keybase banking on XLM itself to drive their revenue?

I had an account for years, but I rarely used it and didn't even know they had an app now. To qualify I had to install the client on 2 devices and setup account recovery. I am now much more likely to explore the app.

Re: Keybase and Stellar Partner on XLM Airdrop Worth $118M

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope, that's not the case, in fact you'll get the Lumens automatically within a day or so. If you want to _continue_ after the first month, you'll need to click the button in the app saying you want to. But you have a month to do that.

I don't see any details on this in my keybase, it's a big confusing to say something has already happened and I'm wondering if I was included or not... I've verified my HN and GitHub. Perhaps it's still being rolled out, can't complain :)

I had to fully quit the app and launch it again before the "airdrop" button appeared. Still unsure myself about the first airdrop. I used my account regularly, was able to join the airdrop so meet all the criteria, but havne't had any Lumens added to my wallet.

Re: Keybase and Stellar Partner on XLM Airdrop Worth $118M

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When I first saw this I just assumed it was some sort of spam/scam. What's the rationale for giving away money here? Is it purely Keybase/Stellar marketing? How is Keybase planning on making money?

They aren't giving away money. They are creating these coins out of thin air. The only way anyone is losing money is possibly by deflating the value of existing coins by creating more supply. That these coins are worth anything at all was sort of luck by being early in the race. The top 10 - 20 coins don't seem to change much.

These airdrops were an expectation from the start. The first coins from this organization were also airdropped and they have done other airdrops since.

I'm not a guru in this space, but I believe the idea for Stellar was to be more of a utility coin as opposed to a store of value.

Re: Keybase and Stellar Partner on XLM Airdrop Worth $118M

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, I get that. So is Keybase banking on XLM itself to drive their revenue?

I had an account for years, but I rarely used it and didn't even know they had an app now. To qualify I had to install the client on 2 devices and setup account recovery. I am now much more likely to explore the app.

Agreed. I'm checking it out now too.

Re: Keybase and Stellar Partner on XLM Airdrop Worth $118M

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's actually pretty scary giving out money (in any form) to international peoples potentially sanctioned by OFAC. Making it their problem through an EULA is an interesting strategy.

But what about people from countries other than the US that are are not sanctioned by OFAC? "further you agree you're not a non-resident alien of the United States" Going by this [1] definition of nonresident alien, I am not a citizen of the USA so I'm an alien, and I don't live in the USA so I'm a non-resident alien. [1] https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/dete...

This is incorrect. If you're not in the USA, you're not a "non-resident alien", you just don't live here at all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_(law)#Categories
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