Name the last school shooting that took place at a school without surveillance cameras. Can you? I doubt it. School shootings predominantly occur at the most locked-down and oppressive schools in the country. The solution to some adolescents being driven into such intense desperation that they are willing to annihilate themselves just to do some damage and escape is not to squeeze them tighter.
AI-powered cameras become new tool against mass shootings
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#12Why not put more intelligence into guns. E.g. fingerprint sensors, determine how often/when they are taken out of the house, ... Update: zoning technology could prevent guns from being used at schools.
Because such 'intelligence' comes with new thingies in the gun (or attached to it) adding weight and volume to it (that's bad), and often reducing its reliability (that's very bad).
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#13Why not put more intelligence into guns. E.g. fingerprint sensors, determine how often/when they are taken out of the house, ... Update: zoning technology could prevent guns from being used at schools.
How exactly is a fingerprint sensor going to keep the legitimate owner of a gun from shooting a school up?
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#14Why not put more intelligence into guns. E.g. fingerprint sensors, determine how often/when they are taken out of the house, ... Update: zoning technology could prevent guns from being used at schools.
Addressing specifically your two points: -fingerprints: because if the system fails, you have no gun. Internal malfunction? Greasy finger(s)? Gloves? Dirt? Dust? People whose fingerprints are really hard to print? - determjne how often/when they are taken out of the house: talking specifically about the USA, that is a gross over-reach of the government (local + federal) via registration. A central database with who h…
Fingerprints: even if the system doesn't fail it means that during an emergency you cannot immediately give the gun to a friend who wasn't previously registered.
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#15This looks like a build of total surveillance system like in China. Except the excuse is different.
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#16Why not put more intelligence into guns. E.g. fingerprint sensors, determine how often/when they are taken out of the house, ... Update: zoning technology could prevent guns from being used at schools.
Addressing specifically your two points: -fingerprints: because if the system fails, you have no gun. Internal malfunction? Greasy finger(s)? Gloves? Dirt? Dust? People whose fingerprints are really hard to print? - determjne how often/when they are taken out of the house: talking specifically about the USA, that is a gross over-reach of the government (local + federal) via registration. A central database with who h…
Dude, I'm pro gun but to deny that taking away guns wouldn't fix it is dumb. All the other countries that don't have lots of guns have way less gun deaths. Period. People here may not consider taking away all the guns possible or preferable, but it would work if implemented.
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#17Alternative headline: AI-powered cameras become new tool for mass surveillance
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#18Why not put more intelligence into guns. E.g. fingerprint sensors, determine how often/when they are taken out of the house, ... Update: zoning technology could prevent guns from being used at schools.
Addressing specifically your two points: -fingerprints: because if the system fails, you have no gun. Internal malfunction? Greasy finger(s)? Gloves? Dirt? Dust? People whose fingerprints are really hard to print? - determjne how often/when they are taken out of the house: talking specifically about the USA, that is a gross over-reach of the government (local + federal) via registration. A central database with who h…
> fingerprints: because if the system fails, you have no gun.
That problem too can be addressed through statistics. How often does a fingerprint sensor fail really? Note that the system could be made to err on the safe side. And could a different technology like Apple's faceId provide a solution perhaps?
> A central database with who has what gun at what time? I'm against it.
Could you explain why?
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#19Why not put more intelligence into guns. E.g. fingerprint sensors, determine how often/when they are taken out of the house, ... Update: zoning technology could prevent guns from being used at schools.
How exactly is a fingerprint sensor going to keep the legitimate owner of a gun from shooting a school up?
Because they can't bring their dad's gun to school.
Also zoning technology could prevent people from using guns at schools.
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#20I'm waiting for a politician to pass legislation requiring us to have the telescreens from 1984. We already have thought crimes, I mean red flag laws and no fly lists. People need to stop giving up their liberty and privacy for perceived safety. You're much more likely to be killed by an automobile than a mass shooting. This is the new flavor of scare tactic.
I agree that no fly lists are a bit much, but I’m 100% in favor of red flag laws.
RE: red flag laws, I don’t see them rising to the level of thought crime. For example, I do not think it is unreasonable to use a legal process involving a judge to take away guns (either temporarily or permanently) from unstable people who are making thinly veiled threats. Society should have that right, and I for one fully support it.
Equating mass shootings to basically the “well, terrorism is so rare you’re more likely to get crushed by your TV” scare tactic argument isn’t really fair. I’m sorry, 283* mass shootings in one year in one country is absolutely insane. It’s not a scare tactic, this is quite literally a mass shooting crisis.
Short of national background checks, assault weapons bans and a whole host of other common sense things that Republicans and the NRA will never let happen in the US, I think red flag laws involving a judge are worth giving a try.
This new trend on HN of hammering red flag laws is really hard to understand. These laws are not oppressive overreach. They are common sense, reasonable approaches to dealing with the greatest domestic threat we actually have.
*https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mass-shootings-2019-more-mass-s...