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Committed to a Safer Google Play for Families

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Re: Committed to a Safer Google Play for Families

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Post by dymk »

jarfil wrote: post #10
dymk wrote: post #6

The way easier solution to this content rating mess is don’t give your young child a phone/tablet. Give them a coloring book and a Snap Circuits kit. I realize this isn’t something Google can do something about; this is directed at the parents giving an internet connected device to a developing mind.

Then you wouldn't need to write apps targeting kids, since no kids would be able to use them, and all of this doesn't apply to apps for adults.

I don’t expect all parents to follow my advice, so there’s always going to be a market for apps targeting children.

Re: Committed to a Safer Google Play for Families

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Post by dymk »

dgzl wrote: post #9
devoply wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is if you never start. Once your kids are hooked, forget it.

And what about exposure from outside your control? Edit: and what about for parents who don't have the resources or ability to manage that kind of control? My point is that it's not easy, not even in the slightest.

I don’t understand why this has suddenly become so complex; you simply don’t give the kid a phone. That’s not a resource, that’s a lack of a resource.

If they’re super young, they’ll entertain without electronics. Give them a coloring book.

If they’re a little older, tell them to go use that Snap Circuits kit. Or here’s a ZX Spectrum and a manual on z80 asm. Or here’s a Nintendo DS and a Pokemon game.

Re: Committed to a Safer Google Play for Families

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Post by secabeen »

dymk wrote: post #12
dgzl wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And what about exposure from outside your control? Edit: and what about for parents who don't have the resources or ability to manage that kind of control? My point is that it's not easy, not even in the slightest.

I don’t understand why this has suddenly become so complex; you simply don’t give the kid a phone. That’s not a resource, that’s a lack of a resource. If they’re super young, they’ll entertain without electronics. Give them a coloring book. If they’re a little older, tell them to go use that Snap Circuits kit. Or here’s a ZX Spectrum and a manual on z80 asm. Or here’s a Nintendo DS and a Pokemon game.

The challenge is when all their friends have a phone, and they want one. Sure, if the culture at your kids school is no one has a phone, then no one cares. If not, it's a lot harder, and does have impacts on them socially.

Re: Committed to a Safer Google Play for Families

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Post by devoply »

secabeen wrote: post #13
dymk wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t understand why this has suddenly become so complex; you simply don’t give the kid a phone. That’s not a resource, that’s a lack of a resource. If they’re super young, they’ll entertain without electronics. Give them a coloring book. If they’re a little older, tell them to go use that Snap Circuits kit. Or here’s a ZX Spectrum and a manual on z80 asm. Or here’s a Nintendo DS and a Pokemon game.

The challenge is when all their friends have a phone, and they want one. Sure, if the culture at your kids school is no one has a phone, then no one cares. If not, it's a lot harder, and does have impacts on them socially.

And you tell them no and that's that.

Re: Committed to a Safer Google Play for Families

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Post by Simon_says »

ilovetux wrote: post #4

>> Apps that include children in their target audience need to adhere to our new policy requirements including appropriate content, showing suitable ads (learn more), and disclosing personally identifiable information correctly. so youtube kids would be a flagrant violation of their new policy. why do they keep recommending this app to me? shouldn't it just be demonitized like they do to countless devs for unstated r…

Youtube Kids is videos OF kids, not videos FOR kids.

Re: Committed to a Safer Google Play for Families

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Post by sunstone »

dymk wrote: post #6

The way easier solution to this content rating mess is don’t give your young child a phone/tablet. Give them a coloring book and a Snap Circuits kit. I realize this isn’t something Google can do something about; this is directed at the parents giving an internet connected device to a developing mind.

A tablet, not connected to the net might be reasonable compromise.

Re: Committed to a Safer Google Play for Families

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Post by cf498 »

devoply wrote: post #14
secabeen wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The challenge is when all their friends have a phone, and they want one. Sure, if the culture at your kids school is no one has a phone, then no one cares. If not, it's a lot harder, and does have impacts on them socially.

And you tell them no and that's that.

Your kids being the only ones without an tablet/smartphone is social death. Great they are not stuck to a screen, instead they will be a miserable outcast. I agree with your initial post, but the implementation is far from easy and needs an collective approach if you dont want to just ruin your kids lives.

Re: Committed to a Safer Google Play for Families

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Post by dgzl »

devoply wrote: post #14
secabeen wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The challenge is when all their friends have a phone, and they want one. Sure, if the culture at your kids school is no one has a phone, then no one cares. If not, it's a lot harder, and does have impacts on them socially.

And you tell them no and that's that.

I don't agree that it's social death, because I've seen it managed fine. But I do think that rebellion is inspired from rules, especially over socially popular phenomenon.
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