The last two projects I worked on that used React, it was pretty obvious that there it served no purpose other than to make webdev into “hard” software engineering. Even the tiniest design changes required expensive software devs to implement them. Good for me but it cost the client a fortune.
I have a problem with React and spend a lot of time talking to my therapist
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#12Can somebody give me a quick rundown on this react-gate?
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#13Although there are lots of cases where React is overused, for example in mostly-static pages that don't really benefit from automated state bindings, there are situations when React is nice. I just recently came back to Android development scene, and React Native actually makes it super easy to do simple Android dev. While it couldn't be used in all use-cases, for prototyping and getting simple things done quickly, it seems like a pretty promising technology.
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#14> Mobile devices simply don't have the CPU and memory to cope well with client-side JS apps. I think they do, but most client-side JS apps are horribly designed. They load the whole bundle at once, display ads, have setTimeouts and other unnecessary things that add to the bloat. Native apps aren't great either, I hate the Twitter and Reddit ones, they constantly fail to load stuff, block and restart.
> They load the whole bundle at once [...]
Isn't this a good thing? Genuinely asking.
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#15Serious, not intended to flame bait question: Why is race/gender featured so prominently in this technical post? Would it be appropriate to open a post with “black men in tech had a twitter meltdown”?
I was wondering that as well. However I am not sure I would call it a technical post. To me it reads more like the rant of a person who hates react because it was written by facebook.
Another issue is that there is a much more serious and extensive history of value judgements about "black" people, rather than about "white" people.
At least in the US there never was widespread slavery of white people because they are white, or widespread ideas of white skin color being associated with lesser intelligence, culture or whatever.
It is, however, very important not to get hung up in racist terminology. For example it only serves the racists' cause to argue who is actually black or who is actually white, or how much of each.
It's not like the average heckler on the street asks somebody where he is from, his religion, what he is doing for a living or what his ancestral gene mixture is!
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#16> In classic fashion, the most privileged 1% of developers (as in those with the most free time - young, white, able-bodied men) saw the newly released React and fell over themselves to be in on The Latest Interesting Technology.
I am a brown guy in a 3rd world country who has been using react for long enough to be an early adopter. Reading this suddenly transformed me into a 6.6ft, white skinned, blue eyed Aryan wet dream.
> The concept of "We Live In A Meritocracy" becomes firmly implanted in the community.
> We reach today, where two prominent React community leaders quit Twitter rather than deal with accusations of emerging white nationalism and machismo-fueled poor behavior.
> The popularity of React is fueled by corporate-sponsorship, a tech industry seeking validation by becoming Hard and Masculine, and aggressive Capitalist principles (validation through work, market dominance, a continuous supply of skilled Labor) that result in Things being placed before People.
This is next level satire, right? right? Or at least something generated by an AI bot fuelled by China/Russia/Ghost of USSR. And the comments below the article take the cake. I have seen better comments on threads in /b/
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#17> So, Reactgate has become a thing. What's been fomenting for a while blew up last week, with two prominent White Men In Tech having little tantrum Twitter breaks, and a wonderful woman of colour working as a dev/designer feeling she is no longer welcome in our industry and planning to leave as soon as it's financially possible.
God. Its so creepy casually stereotyping people by their race and gender in this manner.
Ironically it’s always from so called social justice moralists.
It reminds me of the Stephen fry quote about the church and sex.
> It’s the strangest thing about this church - it is obsessed with sex, absolutely obsessed. Now, they will say we, with our permissive society and rude jokes, are obsessed. No. We have a healthy attitude. We like it, it’s fun, it’s jolly; because it’s a primary impulse it can be dangerous and dark and difficult. It’s a bit like food in that respect, only even more exciting. The only people who are obsessed with food are anorexics and the morbidly obese, and that in erotic terms is the Catholic Church in a nutshell.
These blog authors seem to have an analogous obsession with gender and race.
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#18Can somebody give me a quick rundown on this react-gate?
Someone talked to someone else.
The first person misunderstood the second.
The first person started accusing a well know React dev of being a white supremacist on Twitter because of that misunderstanding.
People who care about social justice rallied to the first persons cause, saying React would protect white supremacists.
React devs didn't know anything about the accused dev being a WS, because he wasn't one.
It got all cleared up that the dev was wrongly accused and the accuser publicly apologized.
React devs got angry that people who care about social justice can run around and ruin peoples lifes with false accusations.
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#20Someone wrongly accused a well known React dev of being a white supremacist for things that didn't happen. Now people are, rightfully, angered about the false accusations, but the accusers use this to say "see, we said you are toxic!" Guess we gonna have fallout from this bullshit a long time...
It seems like the well known React developer has a somewhat more ... illustrous ... history of questionable behavior, so while he may not be an actually white supremacist, he does seem to fit a certain toxic mold.
On the other hand, the mentioned female developer has probably had quite a lot of such experiences with direct and indirect racism, perceived or actual, but either she kept quiet or it didn't blow up that much.