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Productivity and the Workweek (2000)

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Re: Productivity and the Workweek (2000)

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Something like 30 hours a week, 4 days a week cant come soon enough. Right now I work 40-45, 5 days a week and it feels like all I do is work and chores.

Two questions Are many companies offering 4 day weeks? I’d guess yes. Can people afford to live off a 4 day week salary? I’d guess no in general.

Mandate 4 day weeks and see if salaries go down. I would guess not as companies still need to keep their workforce.

Re: Productivity and the Workweek (2000)

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Sure, productivity is rising. But how much are healthcare and education costs rising? And how does that compare to this rise in productivity?

Until those two pieces get solved, productivity gains don't matter since everyone needs to produce/earn more to just get those basic needs fulfilled.

Re: Productivity and the Workweek (2000)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Two questions Are many companies offering 4 day weeks? I’d guess yes. Can people afford to live off a 4 day week salary? I’d guess no in general.

Offering 4-day weeks: Do you see this often? Just curious -- I feel like it's rare, so my guess would be the opposite. (I do know several people that work 4 10hr days as machinists or window installers). My intuition is also the opposite of yours on affordability :), at least in tech...

I live in a country I where yeah it’s common enough (let assume for good workers not borderline ones) but we’re not paid as highly as the US, so supporting a family on a 4 day senior dev salary is a push unless you end got a paid off house.

Re: Productivity and the Workweek (2000)

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The interesting thing is that wages have remained stagnant as productivity has increased dramatically. Which means that our labor has been valued less over time. What needs to happen is that the work week shortens while the minimum wage increases in kind. Top execs need to be comfortable making less, as they are the only ones profiting off these productivity increases.

Re: Productivity and the Workweek (2000)

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Sure, productivity is rising. But how much are healthcare and education costs rising? And how does that compare to this rise in productivity? Until those two pieces get solved, productivity gains don't matter since everyone needs to produce/earn more to just get those basic needs fulfilled.

What is productivity?

Re: Productivity and the Workweek (2000)

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Something like 30 hours a week, 4 days a week cant come soon enough. Right now I work 40-45, 5 days a week and it feels like all I do is work and chores.

30 hours a day seems quite extreme to me.

Well for starters, looking at the charts in the link 30 hours is still much more productive than the 40hr 1975 worker.

As a programmer I'm not doing focused programming for any more than 30 hours a week anyway

Re: Productivity and the Workweek (2000)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Offering 4-day weeks: Do you see this often? Just curious -- I feel like it's rare, so my guess would be the opposite. (I do know several people that work 4 10hr days as machinists or window installers). My intuition is also the opposite of yours on affordability :), at least in tech...

I live in a country I where yeah it’s common enough (let assume for good workers not borderline ones) but we’re not paid as highly as the US, so supporting a family on a 4 day senior dev salary is a push unless you end got a paid off house.

The US system's structure penalizes companies for hiring workers between 20-40 hours. Any company that doesn't rely on flexible edit oops- <20..

Re: Productivity and the Workweek (2000)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Two questions Are many companies offering 4 day weeks? I’d guess yes. Can people afford to live off a 4 day week salary? I’d guess no in general.

Offering 4-day weeks: Do you see this often? Just curious -- I feel like it's rare, so my guess would be the opposite. (I do know several people that work 4 10hr days as machinists or window installers). My intuition is also the opposite of yours on affordability :), at least in tech...

The possibility to work part time with pro-rata pay is mandated by law in some countries under certain conditions (15+ employees,...) (i.e. Germany).
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