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Google's software mistreats or harms the user
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Re: Google's software mistreats or harms the user
#12What is interesting about this and the Apple post[1] is that no one is actually taking responsibility or signing their name. It's just a generic blog post with a list of issues. Where is the GNU's "open" log of who is publishing this info? Without a source, I can't really verify if the author has some ulterior motive. [1] https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-apple.html
> Without a source, I can't really verify if the author has some ulterior motive
Is it actually something you need to appreciate the points the post is making ? I actually very much like raw things like this, that you can appreciate without letting yourself be influenced by who said it.
I often wish for a timeline where we could see the community's reactions to some things Jobs or Musk said if they didn't know it was their words, for exemple.
Re: Google's software mistreats or harms the user
#13What is interesting about this and the Apple post[1] is that no one is actually taking responsibility or signing their name. It's just a generic blog post with a list of issues. Where is the GNU's "open" log of who is publishing this info? Without a source, I can't really verify if the author has some ulterior motive. [1] https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-apple.html
The author has an ulterior motive, which is that to advance the agenda of the FSF*.
Re: Google's software mistreats or harms the user
#14What is interesting about this and the Apple post[1] is that no one is actually taking responsibility or signing their name. It's just a generic blog post with a list of issues. Where is the GNU's "open" log of who is publishing this info? Without a source, I can't really verify if the author has some ulterior motive. [1] https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-apple.html
I think it's pretty clear that this is by the GNU project, under their agenda and that they take responsibility for it. This is not a newspaper or someone publishing a guest article on someone else's blog.
Re: Google's software mistreats or harms the user
#15> Google/Alphabet intentionally broke Revolv home automatic control products that depended on a server to function, by shutting down the server. The lesson is, reject all such products. Insist on self-contained computers that run free software!
The last two sentences seem a little pretentious. The people who bought these products don't know (or want to take the time to learn) how to use git or edit config files or install docker. A consumer IoT product that provided an easy GUI, uses device discovery, and of course was only LAN would be a big win for privacy conscious people, but I'm not aware of something like that existing.
Re: Google's software mistreats or harms the user
#16What is interesting about this and the Apple post[1] is that no one is actually taking responsibility or signing their name. It's just a generic blog post with a list of issues. Where is the GNU's "open" log of who is publishing this info? Without a source, I can't really verify if the author has some ulterior motive. [1] https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-apple.html
The author has an ulterior motive, which is that to advance the agenda of the FSF*.
Sorry to nitpick: GNU is a project, the foundation is the Free Software Foundation. There's no GNU Foundation.
Re: Google's software mistreats or harms the user
#17Given this thread and the one about Apple, I can't help but notice that Microsoft feels, to me, much better on that front. Far from perfect or even good enough for the (very sane) criterias GNU aims for, but I feel very much more in control of my Microsoft box that I am of my Apple or Google one. Of course there are dozen of areas where Microsoft fails as bad as the other two, but I notice there are a couple dozen wh…
> but I feel very much more in control of my Microsoft box that I am of my Apple or Google one. Hahaha, you haven't seen the data MS collects on Windows 10 users? Try enable full telemetry and download their tool, every damn URL gets logged and even some of the "basic" data might reveal trends when combined with other data sets. NO "big tech" company is to be trusted. Cambridge Analytica and co taught us that. Data a…
You may have missed my point, which was not about the default or intent, but about the amount of control they let me have on my actual computer; the ability to change its behavior to make it do what I want.
I have done what you say about having a look at the telemetry feeds, and as such I know that a simple run of 0&0 ShutUp 10 allows me to stop it. Not a complex kernel thing or whatever, just a simple user land application that has like 3 buttons to click and doesn't even require an install.
So I stand by my opinion, which again is not intent or what they do by default, but how much they allow me to change it on my own hardware.
Re: Google's software mistreats or harms the user
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
> but I feel very much more in control of my Microsoft box that I am of my Apple or Google one. Hahaha, you haven't seen the data MS collects on Windows 10 users? Try enable full telemetry and download their tool, every damn URL gets logged and even some of the "basic" data might reveal trends when combined with other data sets. NO "big tech" company is to be trusted. Cambridge Analytica and co taught us that. Data a…
You may have missed my point, which was not about the default or intent, but about the amount of control they let me have on my actual computer; the ability to change its behavior to make it do what I want. I have done what you say about having a look at the telemetry feeds, and as such I know that a simple run of 0&0 ShutUp 10 allows me to stop it. Not a complex kernel thing or whatever, just a simple user land appl…
>0&0 ShutUp 10
What is this?
Re: Google's software mistreats or harms the user
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
You may have missed my point, which was not about the default or intent, but about the amount of control they let me have on my actual computer; the ability to change its behavior to make it do what I want. I have done what you say about having a look at the telemetry feeds, and as such I know that a simple run of 0&0 ShutUp 10 allows me to stop it. Not a complex kernel thing or whatever, just a simple user land appl…
>0&0 ShutUp 10 What is this?
Re: Google's software mistreats or harms the user
#20> Google/Alphabet intentionally broke Revolv home automatic control products that depended on a server to function, by shutting down the server. The lesson is, reject all such products. Insist on self-contained computers that run free software! The last two sentences seem a little pretentious. The people who bought these products don't know (or want to take the time to learn) how to use git or edit config files or in…
The demand is that they run self contained free software, not that they run got and docker with text confog files.
Its possible to have GUIs and ease of use with free software.