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Re: Off-Facebook Activity

#11

'The off-Facebook activity setting isn't currently available to you right now.' Smart, announcing it without it being usable, so when it's silently rolled out later people will have forgotten about it. Never change, FB.

It’s rolled out in Ireland, South Korea and Spain to start, more countries are coming soon.

Not working in Ireland at the moment. Reactivated my account to check.

Re: Off-Facebook Activity

#12
Hmm, a clear history feature that does nothing of the sort. Sounds like Facebook!

The product manager in charge said: “people were able to mentally connect that with how their browser controls work, where they can clear their history. We clearly state that … the information isn’t connected to your account.” [0]

So, they deliberately designed it to make people think it works like a browser's clear history feature (which does delete everything), but instead, it 'disconnects' the data (but doesn't delete anything).

Such a bunch of weasels.

[0] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/aug/20/facebook-...

Re: Off-Facebook Activity

#13
post #2

This is the clear history feature that was announced a year ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16969325 . See also the engineering post that explains some of the challenges in implementing this: https://engineering.fb.com/data-infrastructure/off-facebook-...

Respectfully: if your employer (for as I understand it you are a Facebook employee) encounters "challenges" to treating people decently and not running a panopticon on humanity at large, it is hard to see a reason why your employer should be allowed to continue as a going concern.

Re: Off-Facebook Activity

#16
post #5

So how will this work if I don’t use a Facebook account?

That's my question as well, they aren't saying anything about shadow profiles. It seems like a ploy to get people to create accounts just to 'stop' tracking.

There’s a bunch of FB employees in the comments here, so I guess they will answer soon.

EDIT: Any moment now, I suppose it might take a while to type up a thorough, elucidating answer.

Re: Off-Facebook Activity

#17
Ugh, this just reads so slimy. Like, "Occasionally, businesses share that data with Facebook." or "We sometimes receive information from businesses that use third-party data..." Like it just happens to occur. 'Yep, It's just a natural process, buddy, like the sun rising. It just happens. But we're here to help you deal with this mysterious problem, because we're the good guys!' There's so much grossness to opt out of in the modern world. Thank god for GDPR and CCPA.

Re: Off-Facebook Activity

#18

Hmm, a clear history feature that does nothing of the sort. Sounds like Facebook! The product manager in charge said: “people were able to mentally connect that with how their browser controls work, where they can clear their history. We clearly state that … the information isn’t connected to your account.” [0] So, they deliberately designed it to make people think it works like a browser's clear history feature (whi…

That's why it's not called clear history anymore...

Re: Off-Facebook Activity

#19
post #5

So how will this work if I don’t use a Facebook account?

That's my question as well, they aren't saying anything about shadow profiles. It seems like a ploy to get people to create accounts just to 'stop' tracking.

If you read the article linked in the comments, it looks like this works by creating a special tracking ID for each user that can be disconnected from the real UID, if the user chooses to.

So if you don't have FB, presumably you already don't have UID, so you're on equal footing with Facebook users that use this future. They are tracked, but tracking data is not connected to their UIDs.

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