The author believes working as a software engineer in a startup is fine so long as you have the title "product engineer" rather than "software engineer", as if your job title actually matters.
‘Product engineers’ vs ‘Software engineers’ in startups
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#12The author believes working as a software engineer in a startup is fine so long as you have the title "product engineer" rather than "software engineer", as if your job title actually matters.
This is an uncharitable reading of the article. They aren’t just suggesting a different title - they’re suggesting doing a different job - shaping the product rather than just implementing it.
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is an uncharitable reading of the article. They aren’t just suggesting a different title - they’re suggesting doing a different job - shaping the product rather than just implementing it.
It's not a different job though. Everyone at a startup shapes the product. That's just what it's like working at a startup. That doesn't mean developers in startups aren't software engineers.
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#15I worked at a startup as the first Dev, it was a shock for me having to now consider things like: * What company laptops to buy? * Assess the merits of AWS and GCP and make a decision. * Divine an architecture that will get the product to the customers ASAP but will last at least a year with growth before needing a major rethink. * Present to customers, board members and potential investors about the tech. Eventually…
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#16The author believes working as a software engineer in a startup is fine so long as you have the title "product engineer" rather than "software engineer", as if your job title actually matters.
Whoosh. He is saying you aren't seeking software engineering perfection - so forget trying to be an architecture astronaut and all that that entails. You are seeking product perfection - at any given time. And product perfection can only be judged by your customer satisfaction and business growth.
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#17But what if I want to join a startup so I can build out the stack of my dreams while accomplishing whatever business goals are set? I’m assuming if you _join_ a startup, rather then creating or co-founding one, there’s already a product person on board.
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#18Take two software startups. StartupA hires nothing but the stereotypical "software engineer". StartupB hires nothing but the stereotypical "product engineer". Which startup will be more likely to have a future?
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#19Take two software startups. StartupA hires nothing but the stereotypical "software engineer". StartupB hires nothing but the stereotypical "product engineer". Which startup will be more likely to have a future?
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#20But what if I want to join a startup so I can build out the stack of my dreams while accomplishing whatever business goals are set? I’m assuming if you _join_ a startup, rather then creating or co-founding one, there’s already a product person on board.