Who is responsible from a liability perspective: Boeing, Rolls Royce, or Norwegian?
Metal shards from Boeing 787 taking off over Rome rain down on people below
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#12This really doesn't make me feel very confident about getting on a 787 for a 14 hour flight next week.
If it has GEnx engines you have little to worry about. The easiest way to tell the difference is the GE has metal leading edges on the fan. The Trent fans are all cfrp.
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#13More info and photos. http://avherald.com/h?article=4cb6a09d&opt=0
Those metal bits look big enough to kill a person. I mean, anything havier than a marble falling from high enough will do a lot of damage, right?
Anything with enough power to smash a hole right through a car windscreen (as in the second picture) can kill you, definitely.
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#14Small shards (in great numbers) that according to a witness on the ground were burning or very hot sounds a lot like (pieces of) blades from the turbine or stator/guide vanes. In both cases it's a very significant engine failure.
Given that the aircraft itself seems otherwise undamaged, and people on the ground reported it 'rained' metal shards, I'd say these parts melted off the turbine and fell out. Significant but not catastrophic.
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#15This really doesn't make me feel very confident about getting on a 787 for a 14 hour flight next week.
tbf the Trent 1000 is one of two engine options on the 787; more have GE engines fitted so on the balance of probability your aircraft has a completely different engine anyway.
The ability to fly for extended distances on a single engine is something modern long haul aircraft are designed for and pilots trained for, and even if it's a RR-engined aircraft you're probably more likely to have engine issues with birdstrikes than the apparent metal fatigue issues with the Trent 1000. Looking at the size of those parts that apparently fell I'd feel more unsafe on the ground!
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#16This really doesn't make me feel very confident about getting on a 787 for a 14 hour flight next week.
Boeing is a company of truly stunning arrogance and greed. Boeing's case against Bombardier was when I had my personal "oh shit" moment and realized they'd started doing work with paper instead of doing work with wrenches. Any company which starts down that road has little chance of getting off, and it ends with dead people.
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#17https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidnikel/2019/08/12/norwegian... The plane in question was a 5.5-year-old Boeing 787-8 with the registration LN-LND. The parts are believed to have come from the left engine, a Rolls-Royce Trent 1000, a model that has been plagued with problems. Link about the problems: https://www.theengineer.co.uk/rolls-royce-problems-trent-100... Cracking problems in the intermediate pressure (IPT) s…
> I'm reminded of all the jokes Jeremy Clarkson makes at Rolls Royce's expense...
Rolls-Royce Holdings only makes aero engines, the cars are made by BMW.
Re: Metal shards from Boeing 787 taking off over Rome rain down on people below
#18Oh, and it's raining again Light on your car light, bullets on tin.
For years I'd thought it was "like bullets on tin".
Most lyrics sites seem to have the lyrics you said, but there's still some with the version I thought. I can't find any official source of lyrics either.
I've now listened to the video clip[1] a dozen times trying to figure out which it is, and honestly I'm no closer.
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#19Who is responsible from a liability perspective: Boeing, Rolls Royce, or Norwegian?
Chain. Norwegian to the people hurt and property damaged, they will in turn sue Boeing who in turn will sue Rolls Royce.
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#20This really doesn't make me feel very confident about getting on a 787 for a 14 hour flight next week.
Boeing is a company of truly stunning arrogance and greed. Boeing's case against Bombardier was when I had my personal "oh shit" moment and realized they'd started doing work with paper instead of doing work with wrenches. Any company which starts down that road has little chance of getting off, and it ends with dead people.
The lack of mention of Rolls-Royce here seems more than a little amiss, considering the engine flaw seems to be due to their error as far as I have heard.