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Re: Using AR to help build a complex brick wall

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Post by egypturnash »

kettlecorn wrote: post #9

A similar surprisingly novel case for AR headsets: trimmming hedges into complex shapes. In an AR headset the final desired design is overlayed within the hedge, and you trim the parts outside. Now try to imagine how you might accomplish something similar without an AR headset. It would be very difficult.

People have been doing this longer than recorded history; there's a lot of knowledge about how to take a block of wood/stone/etc and carve away anything that doesn't look like the desired subject.

That said I'm sure there are experts at those methods who would leap at the chance to model their work in more forgiving methods, digital or physical, and use that kind of technology to guide them as they carve!

Re: Using AR to help build a complex brick wall

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Post by kettlecorn »

egypturnash wrote: post #11
kettlecorn wrote: post #9

A similar surprisingly novel case for AR headsets: trimmming hedges into complex shapes. In an AR headset the final desired design is overlayed within the hedge, and you trim the parts outside. Now try to imagine how you might accomplish something similar without an AR headset. It would be very difficult.

People have been doing this longer than recorded history; there's a lot of knowledge about how to take a block of wood/stone/etc and carve away anything that doesn't look like the desired subject. That said I'm sure there are experts at those methods who would leap at the chance to model their work in more forgiving methods, digital or physical, and use that kind of technology to guide them as they carve!

Certainly it's something people are good at, but it requires a lot of skill and expertise!

The method I described with an AR headset makes it something that anyone could do with extremely minimal training.

Re: Using AR to help build a complex brick wall

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Post by aaron695 »

theklr wrote: post #6

This is the only space I see _R taking off for a while. The cost of development is still too high for consumers (and developing for them). Using it for training and virtual modeling is where it shines...for now.

> Using it for training

Computers are useless at this still, why _R?

Cost to do training on computers are to excessive. _R is that squared.

The internet has helped post formal education somewhat.

I'd say citation needed, similarly I'd look to see how much of modelling is looking at the object and how much is calculating, I suspect it's more the later. In this examle I guess the time was creating the wall model.

Re: Using AR to help build a complex brick wall

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Post by codingdave »

egypturnash wrote: post #11
kettlecorn wrote: post #9

A similar surprisingly novel case for AR headsets: trimmming hedges into complex shapes. In an AR headset the final desired design is overlayed within the hedge, and you trim the parts outside. Now try to imagine how you might accomplish something similar without an AR headset. It would be very difficult.

People have been doing this longer than recorded history; there's a lot of knowledge about how to take a block of wood/stone/etc and carve away anything that doesn't look like the desired subject. That said I'm sure there are experts at those methods who would leap at the chance to model their work in more forgiving methods, digital or physical, and use that kind of technology to guide them as they carve!

I've done my share of sculpture in my life - the problems you run into when carving an item down to a desired result is often less about being able see what needs to go, and more about the structure of the underlying material, and whether it will break/crack/shatter when you try to take a specific piece off.

AR could still help - if an app could visually inspect the surface of your material, or the branches of a hedge, it might be able to flag warning signs.

Re: Using AR to help build a complex brick wall

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Post by Semiapies »

Very neat, but I'm not sure what human "intuition" is needed or being used when brick placements are being displayed in AR for you. Seems more like a human bricklayer is just more flexible and much less expensive than setting up a robot rig (and will be for some time).

Re: Using AR to help build a complex brick wall

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Post by zellyn »

lozenge wrote: post #4
jawns wrote: post #3

Could you imagine how this kind of technology might change something as boring and frustrating as Ikea furniture assembly? Ikea tries hard to avoid using text in its instructions, because the products are sold in so many countries. So its assembly instructions tend to be very constrained 2D illustrations with simple pictograms. But it would be so much easier if you could just slap on some AR glasses and visualize in…

You can also find many fans of IKEA instructions. Consider how you would deal with written instructions that appear to contradict the picture instructions and you'll see why.

All it takes to become a huge fan of IKEA instructions is to purchase and assemble a few items of furniture from other stores.

Re: Using AR to help build a complex brick wall

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Post by jedberg »

kettlecorn wrote: post #9

A similar surprisingly novel case for AR headsets: trimmming hedges into complex shapes. In an AR headset the final desired design is overlayed within the hedge, and you trim the parts outside. Now try to imagine how you might accomplish something similar without an AR headset. It would be very difficult.

FWIW hedges are very easy. You build a wire cage in the exact shape you want, then plant the hedge inside the cage. Then you just trim anything that grows outside the cage. It's how they do it at Disneyland.

But for any other material it would be helpful.

Re: Using AR to help build a complex brick wall

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Post by jrowley »

lozenge wrote: post #4
jawns wrote: post #3

Could you imagine how this kind of technology might change something as boring and frustrating as Ikea furniture assembly? Ikea tries hard to avoid using text in its instructions, because the products are sold in so many countries. So its assembly instructions tend to be very constrained 2D illustrations with simple pictograms. But it would be so much easier if you could just slap on some AR glasses and visualize in…

You can also find many fans of IKEA instructions. Consider how you would deal with written instructions that appear to contradict the picture instructions and you'll see why.

There is a great section in Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance about instructions for assembling a bicycle and a barbecue. Pirsig talks about the nature of creating instructions and laying them out and how there are a lot of potential ways to assemble something, but how an author has to chose a single way for their reader.

This discussion leads to him mentioning a favorite excerpt from some instructions he came across: "assembly of a Japanese bicycle requires great peace of mind."

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